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Interesting list I think the #10 "A heightened sense of awareness" goes hand and hand with not being taken unawares by 'Normalcy Bias'. When you have lived in relative peaceful law abiding no shortage of anything world all your life and are suddenly confronted by a SHTF it will be hard for many to come to grips with the fact that the world and rules they have lived with and under their entire lives do not apply.
1 posted on 10/17/2011 9:25:46 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers PING!


2 posted on 10/17/2011 9:28:13 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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Are twin Detonics Combat Masters in a dual Alessi shoulder rig on the list?


3 posted on 10/17/2011 9:29:47 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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Can you post them here? I don't go to blogs.

/johnny

4 posted on 10/17/2011 9:29:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Bump for Morning Coffee. (Not to worry; I’ve horded a whole lot of that, LOL!)


6 posted on 10/17/2011 9:31:41 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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I truly believe that we are heading for times which we have only seen in apocalyptic movies. AND NO I am not talking about God’s end times I am talking about times that men will make so bad that people will cry out for God to end things.

We are at least in for a fall much like that of that we are in for something like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale. Additionally I think we will see a much more violent version. As recent events show (Flash Mobs, UK riots, etc)we have a larger entitlement minded population and a the US has a much more violent and armed population than Argentina. I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and see rape, robbery and murder for murder sake. Many of these ‘yutes’ will think no more about killing you than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it. Nothing is sacred to these people Just look at what happened in Rome:

http://www.euronews.net/2011/10/17/12-arrested-after-rome-riots/

Think of this quote which is one of my favorites:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Now go look at some of the videos of the riots in the UK and of some of the flash mobs here in the US and look into there eyes.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


8 posted on 10/17/2011 9:37:32 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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bfl


10 posted on 10/17/2011 9:47:28 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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Everything I learned about survival skills I learned from Mad Max and The Walking Dead!


14 posted on 10/17/2011 9:57:56 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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If the world collapses, the best way to survive is to join a community, where people know how to live simply, have a good supply of food on hand, and stick together.

That’s why I’m cynical about the “survivalist” types: they tend to be loners, or isolated families. They are all fantasy, not relying on how people actually acted in such times of the past.

Your best bet to survive is in a group that has strong ties to each other, either family or church.

If I lived in the US, I’d move to rural Utah.

Just joking, but Orson Scott Card has a couple apocolyptical novels where the LDS state of Deseret kept the peace and remained stable (and even tolerated us gentiles).... They could do it, if for no other reasons that the LDS keep alive the memory when they were on their own in the middle of nowhere and had to stick together to survive.

Similarly, here in the Philippines, the extended family would keep people alive.

My husband said when WWII hit, he and his mom (a teacher and widow) walked out of town to their farm and hid there for a couple of months...presumably we’d do the same.

Most of the ten million people in Manila would head home to their family towns and live off their family’s land, but I shudder to think what would happen if things got bad and the thugs came up the new highway...gun control is strict here...on the other hand, a machete is a frightful weapon in the wrong hands....

Probably if things got bad, someone, probably a person from one of the rich families who run the place would start a new militia/guerilla movement to keep the peace... and of course, if you needed something, everyone would trade/bribe/steal and smuggle things that are needed.


15 posted on 10/17/2011 10:00:28 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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I agree. #10 is the most important. BTTT.


37 posted on 10/17/2011 10:31:25 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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reading later


73 posted on 10/17/2011 11:53:52 PM PDT by GizzyGirl
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bflr


76 posted on 10/17/2011 11:59:06 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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OK looks like I’ve been ‘Blog Pimping’ again.

My thought on posting this was to stimulate a conversation about Preparing and Preparedness Basics, not start some flame war.

I do not agree with everything that in the article, if fact anyone who has taken the time to look through my preparedness manual knows that I do layout preparedness according to the ‘Rule of Three’.

In fact in this instance I forwarded the 10 Things That Every Survivalist Need list via FReep Mail to several FReepers who didn’t want to actually go to the blog, JRandomFreeper was among those that I preformed that courtesy for.

I have no interest in anyone’s blog NONE. I am even careful about not posting things from fellow FReeper ChocChipCookies (Survival Mom) site to avoid any chance of seeming to promote any particular blogs.

Maybe its time I past on the Preppers Ping list to someone else as many of you know I took it on when I start offering my Preparedness Manual (Blog free!) to any that wanted to down load it, but it seems that I have become a poor ‘sheppard’ of the list maybe someone like JRandomFreeper needs to step forward and take it over.

I leave it up to you.


85 posted on 10/18/2011 3:23:07 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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Not a bad list, but what is cash worth if it really hits the fan? Or even gold?

My own list.

1. Location. You better either be in a great location or have access to it. I'm in an alright temporary spot, but not a good one long term being three miles from the border of Ann Arbor. I'm 200 miles from what I consider an ideal location. Family owned 120 acres. Water. Food. Game. Materials. Few people. 150 miles from the closet inner city. I could even make a greenhouse for long term there.

2. Food, water, clothes, fire, weapons (guns, ammo (limited even with reloading), bows, arrows (reusable), Knives, clubs). Obvious. Gasoline and Diesel will be the most valuable resource of all in a SHTF scenario.

3. Knowledge. Almost anyone can shoot a gun, but not everyone can create their own diesel, weld, plumbing, create electricity, engineer, farm, etc. Those who adapt, survive.

4. Friends and family.

112 posted on 10/18/2011 11:47:15 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Perry and Cain I can support, but no Romney)
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