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Pat Buchanan on America's suicide, and unfortunately more.
1 posted on 10/19/2011 6:18:33 PM PDT by Sick of Lefties
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Bought this on Amazon a few days back ... looking forward to reading it.

2 posted on 10/19/2011 6:19:52 PM PDT by ~Peter
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Our national demise is assured the futher we remove ourselves from the teachings of Christ. You want separation to mean no public acknowledgment of what Jesus did for all mankind? Fine. Try and keep your nation intact. Our forefathers knew what was the glue holding us together.

And that glue has been replaced by postmodern philosophy.

4 posted on 10/19/2011 6:41:14 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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Buchanan is provocative. Noman is incoherent. Pretty much a problem with the signal-to-noise ratio.
5 posted on 10/19/2011 6:48:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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7 posted on 10/19/2011 7:58:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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"Ideas have consequences"(Weaver).

The ideas of 1776 came out of a set of ideas consistent with liberty.

We tend to forget, or have never considered, that other world views existed then, as now.

Unless today's citizens rediscover the ideas of liberty existing in what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776, we risk going back to the "Old World" ideas which preceded the "Miracle of America."

There are those who call themselves "progressives," when, in fact, their ideas are regressive and enslaving, and as old as the history of civilization.

Would suggest to any who wish an authentic history of the ideas underlying American's founding a visit to this web site, at which Richard Frothingham's outstanding 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States" can be read on line.

This 600+-page history traces the ideas which gave birth to the American founding. Throughout, Richard Frothingham, the historian, develops the idea that it is "the Christian idea of man" which allowed the philosophy underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to become a reality--an idea which recognizes the individual and the Source of his/her "Creator"-endowed life, liberty and law.

Is there any wonder that the enemies of freedom, the so-called "progressives," do not promote such authentic histories of America? Their philosophy puts something called "the state," or "global interests" as being superior to individuals and requires a political elitist group to decide what role individuals are to play.

In other words, they must turn the Founders' ideas upside-down in order to achieve a common mediocrity for individuals and power for themselves.

8 posted on 10/19/2011 8:06:23 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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I heard him interviewed and he said that there is no common bond left that unites Americans, today. After 9/11 we were united fro a couple of days ...but, no we are just a bunch of isolated and insulated tribes.

Its a great atmosphere for politicians. But, not for society.

11 posted on 10/19/2011 8:44:14 PM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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“Noman doesn’t disagree with the overall concern expressed in the assessment, though he’s more hopeful than the author about America’s righting its course, sooner rather than later.”

Is California righting its course? What about Massachusetts? What about Vermont? Congress has an 8 percent approval rating and less than 30 percent of Americans believe the federal government has the “consent of the governed.”

“But, he doesn’t blame the problem on invading hordes from the south, frijole wolfing Telmarines.”

Buchanan’s thesis is actually that mass immigration is only a symptom of cultural collapse - this is a straw man.

“He highlights the lethal role of dechristianization in the process of decay. It’s hard to look at TV or movies and argue with him. This is not the fault of immigrants, however.”

This is false.

Everyone knows who created Hollywood and who rules Hollywood to this day.

“Even the collusion of atheistic communism, Russian Orthodoxy, anti-Polish bigotry and historical antipathy could not extirpate Roman Catholicism from the Soviet Union.”

The “soft tyranny” of America’s decadent pop culture is much worse and more enervating than the “hard tyranny” of communist authoritarianism - just look at Western Europe, which is dying a happy death in the embrace of multiculturalism and socialism.

“But, he is not so concerned about the Hispanization of American culture.”

Have you been to California or South Texas? Nothing to be concerned about? What happens when Texas, Georgia, and Florida become Democratic states?

“As Rick Santorum rightly pointed out in last night’s Republican Presidential debate, Hispanics are largely faith-filled, pious, family-loving people. He did not mention that they are also mother/woman-venerating, but could have.”

They also vote 6 to 4 for the Democrats ... which means that mass immigration pushes America to the Left, which empowers Democrats. Just look at California which was destroyed by the IRCA amnesty and the Immigration Act of 1965.

“They are also largely Catholic, even when in opposition to the Church.”

Guess what? Catholics are a majority in Massachusetts and California. Solid Red States, right?

“America could stand to learn some things from our neighbors to the South, and doesn’t need to lament their cultural influence.”

Yes, we need to become more like Brazil, and less like the America of the 1950s!

“Naturally, Hispanics like all immigrants need to be assimilated to America’s ways, ideals and beliefs. “

Is that really happening? Go ask Luis Gutierrez and the National Council of La Raza and MALDEF.

“One need not assail immigration in order to fix a government-caused problem.”

Is California better than it was fifty years ago?

“Does Buchanan not know that Spanish is a European culture, language and heritage? Or, did he just slip up?

Mexico is not a Western country. Spain and Portugal are Western countries, but Guatemala and Brazil are most certainly not Western countries.

“Frankly, it has always troubled Noman, who is generally a fellow traveler, that Buchanan means something racial—white, Anglo-Irish, Germanic—when he references things American. It does not help to identify it as European, or western, and to speak of the “non-Europeanization of America.”

That never troubled the Founders - America has racialized immigration laws from the 1790s until the 1960s. That’s why America was almost 90 percent White in the 1960s. That happened by design.

“He is, however, Catholic, American, and Hispanic. There’s room for all of us in this country, and Church.”

If that were the case, then there wouldn’t be a problem. No one would have any complaints about Hispanics. Unfortunately, only a liar would sit here and say that Hispanics haven’t transformed South Florida, South Texas, Southern Arizona, and Mexifornia.

“He’s mixing two things here.”

Militant egalitarians have been trying to overthrow liberty in the name of equality for generations. The Soviets? Mao? North Korea? Castro?

“And social equality is a condition of the free society.”

No, it is not.

Thomas Jefferson explicitly condemned the whole concept of “social equality” which was always contrasted with civic equality and political equality until the 20C.

Feminism is not a condition of a free society. Neither is radical multiculturalism or other such nonsense.

“Noman thinks he’s wrong on this count. Rather, future generations, historians included, will look back and bless the nation’s adherence to first principles in troubled times.”

LMAO ... these so-called “first principles” didn’t exist until the JFK-LBJ era.

“The magnificent republic we inherited—and should defend tooth-and-nail in all its magnificence, regardless of its blemishes—was bequeathed to us, inter alia, by the scores of millions from the failed states of the Third World.”

No, it wasn’t.

America was created by British Protestants and a smaller number of Northern European groups.

“As Emma Lazarus wrote, and Liberty proclaims: “Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she With silent lips.”

That plaque was privately installed on the Statue of Liberty. For decades, the Statue of Liberty faced Europe ... and was regarded as a symbol of American purity and republicanism, not as a beacon for immigrants.

Liberals historians in the 1940s and 1950s invented the myth that the Statute of Liberty was associated with immigration.

“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

In the Immigration Act of 1924, Congress excluded the refuse by law. In several reforms prior to the Immigration Act of 1924, Congress has banned anarchists and retards and had went to great lengths to exclude the “wretched refuse of your teeming shore.”

“George Washington wasn’t descended from Third-World roots. But, Steve Jobs was. Leonard Lauder, Estee’s son, writes in today’s WSJ that immigrants and their children founded half of Fortune 500 firms like Google and Intel.”

So what? Our ancestors built this country. A bunch of foreigners created an algorithm. It was also the nativist William Shockley who created the semiconductor.

“The broad brush with which Buchanan tars immigration simply doesn’t do justice to the phenomenon.”

The facts are that Third World immigration is enormous drain on American taxpayers - there are few exceptions (i.e., the Cubans, East Asian brainiacs, etc), but it is a lie to say that illegal aliens are becoming rocket scientists and splitting the atom and doing stuff of that nature.

“OK. But, America is not one of those countries naturally vexed with ethnonationalism.”

Except for the War Between the States, right?

“Quite the contrary. We are not bound by ties of ethnicity, blood, land, history or culture—which in America is decidedly a small-”c” affair.”

That wasn’t the case prior to the 1950s and 1960s. Before the 1960s, the conventional wisdom was that America was Western Christian nation, as Buchanan explains.

“In the countries he is referring to, Culture is King, and Capitalized. Here, we are bound by ideas and fidelity to ideals.”

Well, if that is true, what passes for American culture is shit these days, and no one who is sane would want to identify with that culture.

“One need not be Hispanic or Mediterranean to feel these sentiments.”

If Mexicans love America so much, why do they cheer for Mexico against America during the World Cup? Does Luis Gutierrez love America? What about the National Council of La Raza?

“Mass immigration is separate and distinct from illegal immigration.”

Not really.

Mass immigration is driven through chain migration and bullshit “family reunification laws” that allows Mexico and other foreign countries to export their poorest citizens here to become Democratic voters.

“Noman wonders if illegal immigration would be such a problem if legal immigration were sufficiently “mass.”

We don’t need “legal immigration” either when the economy has collapsed to near depression conditions.

“But, again, it is his equation of the Republican Party with the “White Party” that gives Noman the heebe-jebees and strikes him as being singularly unsavory, not to mention unhelpful. Where doe’s Herman Cain fit in Buchanan’s constellation? Marco Rubio? Bobby Jindal?”

White people are responsible for 90 percent of votes for the Republican Party. If White people become a minority, the Republican Party goes extinct.

This is not to say that non-Whites do not support the Republican Party. But let’s be honest. The vast majority of blacks are going to vote for Obama against Herman Cain. Just as the vast majority of Hispanics would vote against Marco Rubio.

That is reality. Mathematics.

If the Democratic Party explicitly caters to homosexuals, to feminists, to Hispanics, to African-Americans, to Asians, and to Jews, and to every other demographic group, then the Republican Party should at least acknowledge that White people and especially White Christian Southerners are the base of the GOP, and that without White Christian Southerners people, there isn’t going to be a GOP in the future, which can already be seen in California.

“But, outlandish talk about losing Arizona doesn’t help the discussion progress. It retards it because it disgusts even people concerned for border integrity.”

Did you know that the radical Mecha activist and the leader of the House Progressive Caucus Raul Grijalva represents Southwestern Arizona?

Why is the idea outlandish? Have you been watching Luis Gutierrez?

“He subscribes to American exceptionalism.”

American exceptionalism is a retarded idea - that’s exactly likely thinking you bulletproof when you are drink. In our cause, America is drunk on utopian ideology, and we think that we are bulletproof.

Future generations will live with the curse of this insanity. Actually, we are already feeling the earliest waves of the inevitable economic collapse right now.

“Noman is willing to assume that the excerpts selected in Drudge’s synopsis so shear the flagrant money quotes from reasoned argument as to make them only seem the rantings of a disgruntled, xenophobic nativist.”

The “disgruntled, xenophobic nativists” ... oh yeah, you mean the people who were right about California? The people who warned that immigration would destroy California and make it impossible for conservatives to live there.

14 posted on 10/20/2011 1:19:28 AM PDT by WilliamHouston
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