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Peter Schiff – Prepare or Die
Snap Wire ^ | 11/1/11 | Peter Schiff

Posted on 10/31/2011 8:07:51 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: frog in a pot

You can buy a Blackhawk Stomp kit for about 375 bucks.


41 posted on 10/31/2011 9:54:18 PM PDT by djf (Soon you will need a prescription for EVERY SINGLE VITAMIN.)
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To: djf

Great idea....adding to my list. I do have a bunch of canned pumpkin around somewhere too...altho it may be more expensive.


42 posted on 10/31/2011 9:58:50 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: caww; djf

OK, I screwed up, was watching MNF and sent my response to caww to djf instead.

What I wanted to send to djf was a commment on the lifetime of c-rats v MREs. The US Army indicates the nutritional value of MREs begins to degrade after a few years. I have a good supply of canned goods and plan to eat the MREs first. My plan is to supplement the MREs with vitamins but, of course, there is also an expiration issue with vitamins. djf’s tag line suggests a further reason to stock up on vitamins.


43 posted on 10/31/2011 10:01:52 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Their bible calls for either our conversion or our death - how and when has that changed ?)
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To: kevao

Yes, white rice will last almost indefinitely if kept sealed and dry. I buy 1/2 Ball canning jars and fill to the top with rice. For extra protection I put 1 dessicant and 1 oxy absorber in. Store away from light if possible. Mine is covered in the garage with black blanket.

Go to an Asian store in town, you can get a 25 lb bag of yummy jasmine rice for $18.

Go to the grocery store. Buy 50 cans of black beans, 50 cans of refried beans, and also, black eyed peas. Baked beans are fine, but you won’t find them as palatable for daily consumption as black beans.

Store canned goods at 75 if possible and they will last 20 years. I have done my research on this, comes from a canning association in Europe. There is no standard for sell dates on canned goods. It is simply a gov requirement to slap one on. Essentially it is completely arbitrary.

Also, hit multiple Asian stores until you find one that sells New Zealand or Australian chunky corned beef. Much better than the mushy Brazilian stuff. Heat it, pour off the fat and it is more like pot roast.

Canned potatoes, buy 50 cans (get diced and whole cans). You can fry these with the corned beef, surprisingly good. Buy canned carrots, add those and they sweeten up the homemade hash nicely.

For $200 you have months worth of food that is easily cooked and eaten & stores as long as MREs.

Oh, and by whatever canned veggies you are willing to eat already. Lots. I buy corn, green beans and spinach by the case.

This method is much cheaper than Mountain House and just as long life.

For variety I also have about 50 cans of tuna, 50 cans of chunk white chicken breast (much higher quality than they used to be) and canned salmon.

If you own a gas grill, keep 3 propane tanks filled for it. Once you buy the tanks it’s cheap enough. You can cook a long time on 3 tanks.

Charcoal grill? (I have both) buy 5 gallon buckets at Lowes and fill with a good brand of charcoal. Seal them and stack 4 or 5 in the corner of your garage.

As someone else noted, get a pump 12 gauge and 00 buckshot. The ultimate home defense weapon. Surf youtube for demos of pump shotguns. Devastating at 25 feet. And very intimidating when you rack a round into the chamber. Pumps are simpler and reliable.

A good handgun, 38 or bigger. A semi auto long gun. A good 22 first, then if you can afford it, something with more punch like an AR15. Start stockpiling ammo. Every time I go into Wally World I buy a box of 100 CCI long rifle. It adds up without much pain.

Youtube is a great place to get reviews of firearms if you are selective about what you watch.


44 posted on 10/31/2011 10:08:16 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: frog in a pot

In 1968, a couple government archeologists discovered the sunken Steamboat Bertrand in the Missouri river north of Omaha.

It was headed for the new gold fields in Montana, loaded with supplies.
New gold fields in 1865 that is, when it sank.

Over half a million artifacts were recovered, including TONS of canned and dried foods. Peaches, sardines, olives, you name it, it was a floating Wal-Mart.

They tested the food. It had lost it’s fresh taste and color, but as long as the seals were good, it was still edible. No bacterial contamination. A hundred years old.

I’ve heard of brave souls trying food from the pyramids and from Roman shipwrecks and not croaking.

As always, if a can is bulging, smells bad, or is IN ANY WAY suspicious, toss it.


45 posted on 10/31/2011 10:12:38 PM PDT by djf (Soon you will need a prescription for EVERY SINGLE VITAMIN.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Since you don't have gasoline, a switch on your furnace wouldn't be helpful:) Is your furnace 110 or 220? If 220 does your gen put out 220?

When I wired my house during building I wired in a few junctions just to power up critical circuits.

There is another trick for getting power to circuits but I'm not telling. If you don't know circuitry already you could get dangerous:)

46 posted on 10/31/2011 10:15:39 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: djf

The ones I see on the internet for $300 are for the container only, they are not loaded out with supplies.

One can put together a kit, but one needs to know wth they are doing in that regard. For instance what kind of suturing materials, what kind of necessary supplies can one obtain without a prescription, what kind of things can one obtain from nurse and doctor friends, antibiotics, anesthesia, etc.

Often thought I would tell my doctor I was going into the backcountry up in Alaska on a scientific mission for several months and needed some emergency “stuff” to see what he would recommend and perhaps provide (he would know I was BSing him but wouldn’t say anything).

Gotta’ hit the sack, good night!


47 posted on 10/31/2011 10:18:31 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Their bible calls for either our conversion or our death - how and when has that changed ?)
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To: frog in a pot

They usually have them at the gun show near me for about 400 bucks. These aren’t just the shells, these are complete, loaded with all the supplies.


48 posted on 10/31/2011 10:23:21 PM PDT by djf (Soon you will need a prescription for EVERY SINGLE VITAMIN.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I recommend a Rocket Stove.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSwZm1K1rA0&feature=related


49 posted on 10/31/2011 10:31:34 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Thanks for the very informative reply. I will definitely present this info to my wife, who only recently is starting to become only mildly concerned about these things.

We live in a major metropolitan area, which is bad, but we do have a good stock of propane tanks for the gas grill, and plenty (i.e., a very fine assortment) of guns and ammo, as well as ample components/equipment for loading more as required. Our weakness is sufficient food and water stores for SHTF. I’m a Ham, so have HF radios, including tube rigs to survive an EMP, but still have no generator.

Thing is, I know most of what we need. But to justify the expense of it all to the wife is difficult. Sure, she’d agree if she knew for certain that SHTF was coming, but she’s also old enough to remember how the world was going to end on January 1, 2000. Thank God I didn’t blow our savings to prepare for that one; I’d have never heard the end of it....


50 posted on 10/31/2011 10:35:06 PM PDT by kevao
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To: frog in a pot

Fully stocked, Blackhawk Stomp SEAL first aid kit. Over 300 items. Shipping weight 18.2 lbs. From Amazon. $349.79

http://www.amazon.com/Fully-Stocked-Medical-First-Aid/dp/B004Q5UASW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320125188&sr=8-3


51 posted on 10/31/2011 10:35:26 PM PDT by djf (Soon you will need a prescription for EVERY SINGLE VITAMIN.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Survival Rule of Threes

You can survive:

Three minutes without oxygen.

Three hours without shelter from the elements (heat, shelter, clothing, etc., during extremes)

Three days without water.

Three weeks without food.

Three months without human contact.

52 posted on 10/31/2011 10:58:15 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: caww

try buying two of something each time you shop.


53 posted on 10/31/2011 11:29:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Vitamin pills. Lots of them.


54 posted on 11/01/2011 12:21:55 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Cold Heart
There is another trick for getting power to circuits but I'm not telling. If you don't know circuitry already you could get dangerous:)

Same here. I wire it directly through a breaker. The main MUST be turned off but once that's done I can energize any circuit in the house I want not just the ones on the transfer switch.

55 posted on 11/01/2011 4:17:26 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: djf

I’ve heard that Spam lasts 30 years. I figure if the can is not swollen or corroded, it’s contents are probably safe to eat.


56 posted on 11/01/2011 5:16:37 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Cold Heart

Thanks for the insight. My list was for things to “get” for next time.

I have a generator coming on Thursday. Getting the furnace up should be pretty easy.


57 posted on 11/01/2011 5:52:15 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Kartographer

Handy dandy quick reference guide. Thanks for posting.


58 posted on 11/01/2011 6:16:15 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: kevao

Same here. Mr S is pretty much humoring me. I am trying to stock up, slowly. Problem is, he doesn’t really believe me, but will believe his best friend or co-workers in a hot minute. If one of them say they heard they should stock up, he’ll start with no problem. On the other hand, I think a small part of him is starting to come around just a bit. He goes grocery shopping with me, and he is seeing how high groceries are getting - as I told him a year or two ago that they would. He’s taught himself how to make sauerkraut and homemade horseradish. Maybe he doesn’t want to admit I’m right! LOL!
I’m going to continue to buy a little extra every time I go shopping. He’ll be glad I did in the long run.


59 posted on 11/01/2011 6:33:56 AM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: djf

Outstanding! Thank you very much.

The sites I hit on a quick search did not offer an inventory of the contents and I concluded they were empty bags. (Amazon and eBay are usually good starting points for a search even if one doesn’t buy from them.)

With a bit of research and effort it seems possible to fit one out to suit one’s circumstances.


60 posted on 11/01/2011 7:46:09 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Their bible calls for either our conversion or our death - how and when has that changed ?)
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