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To: onyx

I went to Pres. Bush’s EO’s
That was the closest I found to the
date that could be pertinent.

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2001-wbush.html

Maybe it’s another one that’s too vaguely
titled I bypassed.

Or maybe they screwed up and are referring
to the Patriot Act

http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/patriot/index.html

But it’s not jibing.


16 posted on 12/05/2011 4:30:44 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

I think Leo might have seen this thread or gotten comments at his blog along the same lines...

From: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/12/05/martial-law-the-fix-is-in/#comments


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/terrorism/july-dec01/jr_09-14.html

This states the “use of force” resolution… which makes “harboring” “such organizations or persons” responsible for 911 available for execution… But the definition of “harboring” includes:

“To entertain or nourish (a specified thought or feeling): harbor a grudge.”

Therefore, again, if you “harbor” the idea that al-Qaeda did not bring down the Towers… one might be covered under the resolution. Like I said, the terms of these draconian measures are purposely nebulous.

Then there’s the Patriot act as well. My point was that since 911 the government has been issuing these directives with nebulous language that is designed with catch alls to ensnare who they like.

Measures with implications that would involve the indefinite detention of US citizens are unconstitutional.

A case involving the meaning of the word “harbor” could happen. If they want you bad enough, they will use these vague orders as best they can.

This is America and I don’t give a crap how bad the alleged crime is… citizens are entitled to due process of law. Either the system works or it doesn’t… for all crimes. If a person is a terrorist, we have laws to convict them and we have a jury system. Our system is as good as it gets. These measures seem to indicate that the government does not believe in the jury system and that it can’t be trusted. Too damn bad. This is the US and citizenship means total control of the US Constitution, not draconian paranoid measures which avoid the Constitution.

Bush is guilty of this rape of habeas corpus and he does not get a pass from me. I realize that many people who support this blog do not agree. But the people trying to destroy this nation are grateful that you don’t agree.

Leo “


23 posted on 12/06/2011 10:18:37 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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