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FEDERAL AGENTS DEMAND CUSTOMER LISTS FROM MORMON FOOD STORAGE FACILITY
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| 12/9/11
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Posted on 12/09/2011 5:30:06 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: af_vet_rr
Clearly you haven’t been paying attention the aren’t worried about voters.
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posted on
12/09/2011 7:04:12 AM PST
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: af_vet_rr
Nope. If it gets to that point, then I have nothing left to loose. It'd be time to start collecting heads.
And yeah, I live on acreage with heavy woods and rive access, private well/septic, etc...
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posted on
12/09/2011 7:06:07 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
To: af_vet_rr
While I agree with you that they should have had a warrant, it does jive because they are pretty strict about people buying in bulk from places and reselling it. I just looked at Costco's website and if you are going to buy their products to resale them, you have to get a business account and provide the appropriate resale information for tax/business purposes. I don't see how that's relevant. Costco isn't required to keep a record of the names of everyone the sell to, and provide it to the IRS on damand. If you're buying from Costco for resale, it's your repsonsibility to do the paperwork and report it to the IRS. If you didn't do it, the IRS should be coming after you, not Costco.
To: Dick Tater
Uh hello, they went to a Mormon food distribution center. Or does "Mormon cannery" mean "some dude's pantry" to you?
Like I said, you're talking small beans, compared to Costco or Sam's. We don't even know what kind of "federal agents" they were or the name of the cannery. This information should be easy to verify, but it's missing. Mormons have a persecution/doomsday complex to begin with, which is why they used to insist on two years, then one year, now three months of food storage. I always thought it was funny that they were required to have a massive amount of food in case the second coming of Jesus Christ happens during their lifetime.
To: rktman
The little discount cards that you could get from them to save you some money when in fact they are being used for inventory control but also tied to you so if someone wanted to track what you were buying every week it would be real easy. Cash is king. When getting one of those member cards, they still work fine when you supply a fictitious name and address.
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posted on
12/09/2011 7:15:35 AM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
To: wastoute
Like you, I suspect that when the gummint checks stop there will be many folks running around with their hair on fire.
I don't suspect at all - if you could cut off all food distribution and sales today, there will be people in serious trouble just a week or two out. There are people who think they are okay for a few weeks, but remove electricity or natural gas from the equation, and they will be in trouble.
To: coloradan
“What the @#$% does the federal govt want to know this for? The store should have copied the credentials of the agent before taking any questions.”
WHY INDEED?????
Anti-Hoarding Laws and Executive Orders
Congress has 30 days to object to an Executive Order (EO) before it becomes law. No objections were raised against these Command and Control emergency Readiness Laws when they were put in place. Has the emergency arrived that needs them and are they slowly being introduced?
Bill Clinton grouped together the following EOs under EO #12919 released on June 6, 1994. These are the tools used to shred the Constitution and take away your rights under its protection: Each EO number is linked to its full content:
10995 Federal seizure of all communications media in the US (tested last month).
10997 Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private.
10998 Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment (including what you are storing for emergencies in your home right now).
10999 Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports and water ways.
11000 Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires (this happened before in Europe during the Nazi regime).
11001 Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private.
11002 Empowers the Postmaster General to register every single person in the US.
11003 Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft.
11004 Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish forced relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as unsafe, establish new locations for populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public funds.
11005 Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.
11051 Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control in case of National Emergency).
These EOs are not aimed at anti-hoarding but rather at seizure or confiscation of items and facilities to provide a state of readiness in these resource areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.
Youll find most seizure legislation ends with this phrase. These Executive Orders dont define what specifically constitutes a national emergency
The specifics on hoarding are left up to the individual states.
To: Kartographer
Clearly you havent been paying attention the arent worried about voters.
They may not care about individual voters, but they damn sure care about lobbyists. That's a topic for another thread, but if we could dry up that lobbying and campaign money, it would solve a lot of problems with Congress.
To: af_vet_rr
small beans? Not so much. And the bigger difference is that Costco and Sams dont give it away like the church does.
As to Mormons having a persecution complex, you dont think it's warranted? Look at the ridiculous bigotry on THIS website towards them - and the douches on this site profess to be the live and let live types. As for doomsday, not so much. The advice is to be prepared for hard times, not the EOW. ...and it's still 1 year.
To: af_vet_rr
Exactly my point. I don’t think one needs 6 months of food. In 6 days there will be plenty of food (for the survivors). Smart folks would be learning how to gain knowledge that will be invaluable when trying to survive... Knowledge is imperishable (to the point of memory anyway) and can’t be taken from you without your consent.
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posted on
12/09/2011 7:23:04 AM PST
by
wastoute
(Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
To: tacticalogic
what is a “mormon cannery” vs a regular cannery?
does the author mean mormon owned? or is this some sort of anti-mormon thing?
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posted on
12/09/2011 7:23:45 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: tacticalogic
I don't see how that's relevant. Costco isn't required to keep a record of the names of everyone the sell to, and provide it to the IRS on damand. If you're buying from Costco for resale, it's your repsonsibility to do the paperwork and report it to the IRS. If you didn't do it, the IRS should be coming after you, not Costco.
Except that Costco and Sam's do require you to inform the cashier if you are purchasing it for resale purposes and you are required to provide the valid state tax information with your membership application. If they had no responsibility whatsoever, then they wouldn't be required to collect that information with your membership and they wouldn't require you to inform the cashier.
What we need is the name of the cannery and the types of federal agents and who they were representing. Right now we are faced either with the Alex Jones scenario of government control or some agency not getting the taxes they think they deserve and there is a pretty big difference between the two.
If I'm reselling goods and making a profit and not reporting it and somebody gets wind of it, they are going to be talking to places they think I did business with. That's why we need the name of the cannery and the types of federal agents and who they are representing.
To: Dick Tater
small beans? Not so much. And the bigger difference is that Costco and Sams dont give it away like the church does.
The cannery was not giving away food - it clearly stated in the article that customers were "cash and carry", not "carry" and like I said, they probably do a fraction of the business that a large Sam's Club or Costco does.
As to Mormons having a persecution complex, you dont think it's warranted? Look at the ridiculous bigotry on THIS website towards them - and the douches on this site profess to be the live and let live types.
I'm one of those bigoted douches who puts some of the Mormon beliefs up there with the Scientologists and Muslims. And the Mormons brought a lot of the persecution upon themselves. A lot of folks were not too fond of some of the stunts they pulled in the 1800s.
To: af_vet_rr
If I'm reselling goods and making a profit and not reporting it and somebody gets wind of it, they are going to be talking to places they think I did business with. Then they'd be looking for the people you sold to, not the people you bought it from. That you bought it proves nothing. They need proof you're selling it.
To: Kartographer
Confirmed report of an uncomfirmed report received from an unknown person at an unknown cannery involving an unknown manager and unknown federal agents in an unknown town or city.
=8-)
To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
Confirmed report of an uncomfirmed report received from an unknown person at an unknown cannery involving an unknown manager and unknown federal agents in an unknown town or city.After reading about the FF investigation, that's about as definitive as it gets when dealing with a federal agency any more.
To: Notwithstanding
That they have to keep records doesn’t explain why they need to KEEP those records?
Do you if Sams Club regularly hands over copies of customer records without a reason (meaning without a warrant).
And even if it’s a tax issue, how is the names and addresses of every customer going to help determine the sale.
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posted on
12/09/2011 8:43:35 AM PST
by
autumnraine
(America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
To: af_vet_rr
I have nothing else nice to say to you. I dont care for bigots and bullies.
To: Georgia Girl 2
***Because when the SHTF the Feds want to be able to go around and collect food from all the hoarders.***
My Brother-in-law’s parents ranch in Texas was raided in WWII because they had a supply of home canned food. The law took it all. They survived by having a second cellar hid out in the hills with enough to get them through till the next year.
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Well, there ya go. A good lesson to be learned.
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posted on
12/09/2011 9:07:46 AM PST
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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