Posted on 12/17/2011 9:58:17 PM PST by Seizethecarp
I always loved that document.
If Lolo never legally adopted Obama/Barry/... then why is he (assuming he is child over 18 in section 3 of the opening paragraph) listed at all in this settlement. If Obama II was never Lolo’s legal son why list him in this settlement?
William H. Gilardy, Jr knows.
This document seems to provide the legal specific that Obama was an adopted child of Lolo and ‘anchors’ that fact. No unlike the previous divorce legally ‘anchors’ Obama Sr. as the birth father - regardless of the real circumstances.
IMO, The smaller boy in the studio picture is just sucking his lower lip in, something nervous children do in settings such as a photo-shoot, which the same smaller boy is not doing in the picture where Ruth is holding him.
In the picture of David in comment #162 he has a fairly strong chin, as does his mother.
In comment #202 the comparison picture of baby Barry has almost no baby hair at almost the same age as the smaller boy in the studio photo who has much more baby hair.
They look very similar but are different because they are “brothers from another mother”, Caucasian mother's with strong chins, but with the same father. Their likeness is still the best proof to me that they have the same father.
Isn’t there a page missing from this file?
That is likely your answer.
Of course if Obama was legally adopted in US courts by Lolo prior the family going to Indonesia then the the page would likely be redacted as a matter of legal scrubbing of court records to eliminate the old identity and put it ‘under seal’. Legally - as is done with adoptions.
Is this why Hawaii officials have sometimes said that the ‘records are sealed’? Only a court seals records. And usually for valid, legal reasons - like an adoption.
I bet when Ayres got down with Dreams he was asked if it will work. He probably responded like Bluto to Flounder after the road trip in Animal House:
“it has to work better than the truth!”
allow me to draw to your attention what you wrote (in part)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2821875/posts?page=196#196
4. The age of the older standing “dark” boy (five years)
6. The age of the boy being held by the woman (two years)
So you do agree there is at least three years difference in their ages...(although you refused to answer that question before)
WILL YOU ANSWER THAT NOW? ARE YOU SAYING THERE ARE THREE YEARS BETWEEN THE TWO BOYS IN THE FAMILY GROUP, REGARDLESS IN WHICH YEAR THE PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11
What did she provide to the Court to show the ID of the child she was given custody of?
ping...
Subpeona for LFBC of dead baby girl, Sunahara, born Aug 4, 1961
IMO, they are the same two boys in both photos, Mark and David born three calendar years apart. As these are calendar years they could be as little as close to two years apart in age or nearly four years depending on the birth dates in the calendar year.
Now for you: What is the date of the family picture and does that work for the persons you think are pictured?
It doesn’t seem to work for Little Jeremiah’s date of 1967 with the “dark boy” being eight years old, or so, which is obviously not the case to my eye.
(thanks for the reminder, January 26 - wonder how they will handle it)
You refuse to answer a direct question, so I am not interested in any further discussion.
You are even trying to wiggle out of something you wrote yourself.
You continue to insist that the boys in both images are Mark and David. Fine.
Now go and find your ‘David’ - do some research, and come back with SOURCES AND LINKS.
(I'm still on vacation - pinging anyway. No rest for the weary.)
Subpoena for LFBC of dead baby girl, [ Virginia ] Sunahara, born Aug 4, 1961
Subpoena served December 12, 2011. See graphic at # 226.
Thaanks Seizethecarp.
Check out several new graphics posted since the last ping; also see link to Dunham-Soetero divorce decree at # 218.
Try to at least theoretically think that maybe “David” does not exist. Just theoretically look at all the info that is there without any David. And consider why he may have been invented.
To make an identity for the little boy sitting next to the dark boy.
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That is exactly how they look to me regardless of when the picture was taken. They look about three years apart in the picture. I'll say it any way you like. Obviously, if I didn't think the boys looked three years apart, I wouldn't think it was Mark and David who best evidence made public to date says were born three years apart.
Now to inform all of us, when do YOU think it was taken and who do you believe the boys in the picture to be and what ages? So far, the “dark boy” being born in 1959 doesn't seem to work for him to be much less than eight years old in a picture with Ruth holding her own bi-racial child of about age 2 in Kenya, knowing her date of arrival and the approximate 1965 birth date of her first child.
As a retired CPA and Certified Fraud Examiner, I am trained to start with what exists and then fill in the blanks...beginning with Occams Razor! Knocking out corroborated evidence, in this case a person, David, doesn't make sense to me. We have a living brother, Mark, whose pictures and testimony say David exists. I see a clear resemblance between the adult Mark and the so-called "dark boy" and Mark says that is his picture, so it makes no sense to me to try to prove that the "dark boy" is some speculative child born six years earlier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam’s_razor
“Occam's razor, also known as Ockham’s razor, and sometimes expressed in Latin as lex parsimoniae (the law of parsimony, economy or succinctness), is a principle that generally recommends from among competing hypotheses selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions.”
there is NOT three years difference in the ages of the two little boys in the above image. I told you, believe what you like, and go and find 'David' - do the research. And get back to me with links and sources when you find him. End of discussion.
Wikipedia is not a credible source for this forum, on any subject. Its a far left web site.
Regarding the so-called “dark boy” who is supposedly NOT Mark (I disagree) there is no name, no age, no mother (but Sr was seen with some Asian women...does this kid look Asian?), but BHO Sr. is somehow supposed to be his father, no birth location, no documents, no nothing except the failing memory of Mary Toutonghi concerning the age of her child when she was baby-sitting Barry for SADO.
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