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To: DiogenesLamp

DiogenesLamp wrote: “But no one knew it at the time because all involved LIED about when his father naturalized and when Arthur was born.”

So cite them lying about when Arthur’s father was naturalized.

DiogenesLamp wrote: “No one cared alright, because Arthur led everyone to believe that his father had naturalized prior to Chester’s birth. It’s all in the book I keep showing you.”

You seem to have showed the wrong page. How about you show the page saying the citizenship of Arthur’s father mattered?

Hinman thought, incorrectly, that Chester Arthur was born in Canada. Hinman was a proto-birther, but not so stupid as to be a proto-Vattel-birther.


30 posted on 12/24/2011 3:37:56 PM PST by BladeBryan
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To: BladeBryan

No one knew that William Arthur was not a Citizen at the time of Chester’s birth. He has been in the United States after Canada for long enough that no one thought to question it. Those who did were just told he had been around for decades and must be a citizen.

In articles published in “The Brooklyn Daily Eagle” at the time showed rather definitively that Arthur lied on several occasions about his family history. If you want a real good paper on the matter please see one I wrote on the subject for my history class. I got an A on the paper by the way, and believe me, the prof went through every citation for accuracy, that was part of the assignment. You can find it on SCRIBD: http://www.scribd.com/doc/76438484/21st-President-Chester-A-Arthur-America%E2%80%99s-First-Unconstitutional-President I just uploaded it there so it might take a minute or two to finish the conversion process from the word doc original. There were a lot of citations to do.


32 posted on 12/24/2011 4:04:28 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: BladeBryan

For the record, Hinman tossed up a number of possibilities, Canada was just one. The other was Ireland. Hinman sort of threw the whole kitchen sink at Arthur in an effort to prove he wasn’t born in the US. I believe it was a smoke screen, and no one has ever specifically identified who hired Hinman to do his work. He was PAID to investigate. So it is possible that Arthur through a third party hired Hinman to keep people looking at his place of birth rather than for his father’s citizenship status at the time his son was born. Also for the record, it was Leo Donofrio who FOUND the Naturalization document, the actual physical document which was never located by Hinman, something you would think he might have found considering all the other digging he was doing, and all the locations he went to in order to do that digging.

To further muddy the waters Arthur burned nearly all his documents after leaving the Office. Within 18 months the man was dead of a kidney ailment which was his real reason for not running for a second term.


34 posted on 12/24/2011 4:11:01 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: BladeBryan

Did you read the book? No? Then shut up.


41 posted on 12/25/2011 8:18:22 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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