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Ron Paul's Crazy Libertarianism
Off Grid Blogger ^ | December 30, 2011 | Off Grid Blogger

Posted on 12/30/2011 4:25:13 PM PST by grumpa

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To: svcw

So post the evidence then, it can’t be that hard for you. Or am I supposed to just blindly accept you as an authority on the issue.


21 posted on 12/30/2011 5:32:21 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

The bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00748:
Voted NO, April 27, 2005
The bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c106:H.R.1218:
Voted NO: June 30, 1999


22 posted on 12/30/2011 5:46:06 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: grumpa
Libertarianism is far out! A twelve year old girl should be able to live with a pimp, sell her body, and use the proceeds to purchase heroin (after her pimp takes a percentage, that is).

Don Feder suggested that Walt Disney's Goofy cartoon character would vote libertarian if he could.

23 posted on 12/30/2011 5:48:24 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: JohnKinAK

Horsehockeys

Where in the Bill of Rights are 24 year old men guaranteed the right to seduce a 10 year old free from prosecution? Where are they guaranteed access to herio?

It’s all a big scam to dilute the R vote


24 posted on 12/30/2011 5:57:00 PM PST by MindBender26 (Don't bother me with the small stuff. I'm too busy trying to save the Republic from Obamaism)
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To: Stepan12
A twelve year old girl should be able to live with a pimp, sell her body, and use the proceeds to purchase heroin (after her pimp takes a percentage, that is)

Inventing incendiary hypotheticals isn't a very productive way to discuss political ideas. Can you provide any documentation to support your implication that Ron Paul or any Libertarian actually supports the hypothetical you posit?

I doubt it.

25 posted on 12/30/2011 6:35:21 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: JohnKinAK
I had no intention to discredit libertarianism, but czar Sunstein's skullduggery is a threat to it.

Libertarian paternalism is part of "nudging" -- another of czar Sunstein's fetters.

The regulatory czar intends us to be "nudged" into choosing the "correct" option from the limited options presented to us by the government. Both Parties will love this, I am sure.

Aided by the MSM and all aspects of "the Establishment" -- they will not publicize unacceptable options. So if we do not hear of them do they exist? No.

And I remember. It was pretty much that way in the days of the "Fairness Doctrine" with three TV networks being the source of "news" for the major portion of the public. I have read many comments wishing to return to those days when there was very little "divisiveness."

That kind of Sunstein "democracy" is prevented by talk radio and the Internet -- and Sunstein has named Free Republic as a threat.

26 posted on 12/30/2011 6:38:49 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: JohnKinAK

Maybe you should read the man’s official positions as oppossed to some blogger’s opines,

I’ve read his official positions for a number of years. I’ve seen him in person, on tv and such. The man is an idiot and not much above his followers


27 posted on 12/30/2011 6:39:58 PM PST by Figment
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To: svcw

Ditto Romney and Newt ;)


28 posted on 12/30/2011 7:13:10 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: grumpa
The one thing that Jesus really got angry about was hypocrisy. Ron Paul loads bills he knows will pass with pork for his district and then votes against it.
I don't know if he is an anti-semite but his policies would lead to the total isolation of Israel and leave them at the mercy of the nut job islamofacists around them.
It is inconsistent to be against murder and allow abortion.
He is the one candidate who could not be Obama.
If he runs 3rd party we will know for sure he is more interested in himself than the country.
29 posted on 12/30/2011 8:38:10 PM PST by Englishman (Thank you America)
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To: Englishman

Sorry for the typo - beat Obama.


30 posted on 12/30/2011 8:40:43 PM PST by Englishman (Thank you America)
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To: grumpa

The Ron Paul supporters I’ve met are heavy drug users.

Why wouldn’t they like him?


31 posted on 12/30/2011 8:44:03 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Figment

Like I thought you’re not a serious poster. All mudslinging and not one piece of substance. I’m done corresponding with you.


32 posted on 12/30/2011 11:16:23 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: MindBender26

Please provide the substantial evidence this is what he supports. I’ve seen lots of hysterical claims but not one piece of actual evidence.


33 posted on 12/30/2011 11:18:24 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: svcw

empty links.


34 posted on 12/30/2011 11:19:30 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Between the Marxists and the hysterical rantings of alleged conservatives you’d think it was criminal to have a libertarian thought.

But then I shouldn’t be surprised, Tyrants always rely on the useful idiot class.


35 posted on 12/30/2011 11:22:41 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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His reasoning: "Nevertheless, rather than abide by our constitutional limits, Congress today will likely pass H.R. 1218. H.R. 1218 amends title 18, United States Code, to prohibit taking minors across State lines to avoid laws requiring the involvement of parents in abortion decisions. Should parents be involved in decisions regarding the health of their children?? Absolutely. Should the law respect parents rights to not have their children taken across state lines for contemptible purposes?? Absolutely. Can a state pass an enforceable statute to prohibit taking minors across State lines to avoid laws requiring the involvement of parents in abortion decisions?? Absolutely. But when asked if there exists constitutional authority for the federal criminalizing of just such an action the answer is absolutely not. " Source

His official position on abortion is available here
Hysterical rantings aside.......as I prefer to examine the facts. The facts lead me to believe he is not pro-abortion.
36 posted on 12/30/2011 11:40:15 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

Why didn’t you simply read the original post?

Failing that, I’ll be glad to do your research for you, at my usual retainer of $650/hour

VISA/MC and AMex gladly accepted


37 posted on 12/31/2011 1:00:54 AM PST by MindBender26 (Don't bother me with the small stuff. I'm too busy trying to save the Republic from Obamaism)
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To: svcw
What I agree with is a return to the Republic of our Founding Fathers. A limited, Federalist Republic with powers delegated back to the States as they intended it to be. I don`t think the Federal bureaucracy should be deciding ANY issues beyond International Relations/Trade, Interstate trade, War, and Defending the borders.

The 9th and 10th amendments clearly give the States the right and power to decide and if you don`t like the decisions made at that level then you simply move to one thats more amenable to your beliefs.

Do you agree with the progressive dictatorship that BOTH parties have set us on a road towards?

Your party did vote for the Defense Appropriations Act that repeals the Posse Comittatus Act, calls for indefinite detention, and makes America a battle field, didn`t it?

How do you feel about your saviors` in that light?

38 posted on 12/31/2011 7:07:14 AM PST by nomad
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To: svcw
And no, I don`t agree with much of what Paul supports, BUT I don`t agree with the progressivism lite that has become your party and IF we could do away with the monster, that the Fed bureaucracy has become, and re-instate the old Republic, I DO have faith that the majority of the people would NEVER consent, thru their state legislatures, to allow ANY of those crazy things to be passed!

You make the same mistake the progressives in your party make, and thats NOT having ANY faith in the ability of people to govern themselves.

Restore the Republic and let the people at the state`s level decide.

THATS WHAT I SUPPORT!

39 posted on 12/31/2011 7:31:15 AM PST by nomad
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Hysterical.....that’s rich coming from a Paul supporter.
Paul always has reason.
The bottom line is he has no problem with the transportation of minors across state line to have abortions.


40 posted on 12/31/2011 7:41:14 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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