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Flashback: Ron Paul Endorses Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader For President
Brian's Right Perspective ^ | December 26, 2011 | Brian

Posted on 01/01/2012 3:29:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

As if there are any more reasons to show that Ron Paul should not be the GOP Presidential candidate, there is this bit from 2008 in which Paul endorses four(!) candidates for President, including the Marxist whack-job Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader. How unhinged to you have to be, intellectually, to endorse not only four people, but four whom also hold diametrically opposing views on the role of government. This alone shows that Ron Paul is not a serious thinker. In fact it shows him to be a reactionary flame thrower, willing to completely abandon principles when he doesn't get his way.

Ron Paul may truly be concerned for the direction of the country, as all of us are, but undisciplined rhetoric and childish temper tantrums when he doesn't get his way should disqualify him from the top nomination of any party.

See some of Cynthia McKinney's lowlights...: On Libyan Television supporting Ghadafi Regime....

....Paul, who unsuccessfully sought the Republican presidential nomination, will tell supporters he is not endorsing GOP nominee John McCain or Democratic nominee Barack Obama, and will instead give his seal of approval to four candidates: Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney (my emphasis), Libertarian Party nominee Bob Barr, independent candidate Ralph Nader, and Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin, according to a senior Paul aide.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
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Cynthia McKinney, Former US Presidential candidate, blames the pro-Israel Lobby for ruining her political career

1 posted on 01/01/2012 3:29:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, but to have the Paultards tell it, only by electing Paul can we prove our patriotism—he’s The Only One who repects our consitution and understands liberty and blah blah blah...

Proof that the lunatic fringes of left and right are one big radioactive pool of insanity.


2 posted on 01/01/2012 3:45:14 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Is it really time to go?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Absolutely Nobama; Allegra; BlackElk; humblegunner
"The Gang of Four"


3 posted on 01/01/2012 3:45:59 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Darkwolf377

It is insanity.

75% of his followers are Jim Jones-like.

The 25% pulling the Paul majority along, want U.S./Israel backs against the wall so free market capitalism crumbles.

Paul WILL go 3rd Party.


4 posted on 01/01/2012 3:52:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
Well I have got to say CW, that this information, properly disseminated on the ground in Iowa, OUGHT to pretty much defuse and dismantle whatever campaign Paul has going on up there.

I mean REALLY folks (and I'm talking to whatever PaulTards show up to defend the indefensible here), how on EARTH could you possibly continue to support a lunatic who gave his own personal stamp of approval to the likes of Cynthia McNinney and that perpetual liberal clown Ralph Nader?

PaulTards, PLEASE, give your head a shake. Surely you have enough untainted neurons remaining in your heads to realize that Ron Paul is NOT what he appears to be?

Fer gawdsakes, take your votes and give them to Perry, Santorum, Gingrich or even Bachmann, but get OFF that PaulTard Express while you still can, before you waste your vote on the senile sputterings of a guy who jumped the shark a LONG time ago.

Nice find CW, you did a good thing posting this.
5 posted on 01/01/2012 3:58:29 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
*sigh*

This blog post has a misleading title. He endorsed Chuck Baldwin. His appearance with those third party candidates wasn't an endorsement, but basically an acknowledgement that they all agreed on a few issues... So the whole thing was more of a general suggestion that people should vote for a third party candidate. But when asked who his choice was, he endorsed Chuck Baldwin.

6 posted on 01/01/2012 4:05:44 AM PST by incindiary (http://youtu.be/BkpnhCkLK-M)
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To: mkjessup

With work this can get circulated.

The MSM isn’t going to help.


7 posted on 01/01/2012 4:05:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: incindiary
Third Party debate:

RON PAUL ENDORSES BARR,BALDWIN,MCKINNEY,AND NADER

He wanted the "four" candidates to "get together" and go Third Party with all their supporters.

8 posted on 01/01/2012 4:12:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For further proof (redundant, I know) that Ron Paul followers make the Moonies look like skeptical freethinkers, go to frontpagemag.com & look up any article with his name. The PaulBot commenters hysterically denounce ANY criticism of their Dear Leader, it would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

I saw PaulBottery came in 2008 when I took an entrance ramp onto interstate. The grass in the cloverleaf was a riot of color with candidate signs of all names & persuasions stuck everywhere. When I drove back a day later these were all gone and replaced with nothing but Ron Paul signs.

Remember, criticism of Dear Leader makes you an enemy of the people.


9 posted on 01/01/2012 4:26:48 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I can't watch the video right now because of the computer I'm on, but I can read some the comments, and they're saying pretty much the same thing I said.

Why put so much effort into trying to bring him down, are you scared that he has a chance of winning the nomination? I thought he "has no chance" according to many of his opponents, and the MSM. The fact that you guys are throwing all of this stuff against the wall to see what will stick is interesting... Hopefully it will cause people who value the truth to actually look into things, and think for themselves rather than let the MSM do their thinking for them, or believe misleading headlines at first glance. And hopefully eyes will be opened. That's what I'm praying for.

10 posted on 01/01/2012 4:39:23 AM PST by incindiary (http://youtu.be/BkpnhCkLK-M)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good find. By directing his supporters to fringe candidates, he was helping Obama get elected.


11 posted on 01/01/2012 4:41:56 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: elcid1970

The push for Paul has the makings of an ‘operation chaos’ from Acorn, OWSers and Bamsters. The mystery is; how are they being made available for polling?.

After the GOP convention, I suspect, they will disappear from view and vote for BO. He has already accomplished Paul’s foreign policy philosophy: surrender and isolation.

JMHO


12 posted on 01/01/2012 4:45:03 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: sodpoodle

“operation chaos”......

Who says the enemy doesn’t learn from its foes?

I think you’re on to something here. Elaborate!


13 posted on 01/01/2012 5:13:41 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: incindiary

The lunatic is a
9-11 truther
Blames the US for 9-11
Jew hater
Supports Iran nuclear bomb quest
Supported Code Pink ‘s terrorist flotilaa against Israel
Fought the GOP earmark ban While requesting 134,000,000
In pork
Peddled. A racist newsletter and lies about it
He is a liar and fraud


14 posted on 01/01/2012 6:05:31 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: sodpoodle

Exactly , they are also doing the same in open primaries like NH !
I suspect they were left open by the RNC to help Mittens win ,
The Dems operarives are hoping to sucker this vile nut into running
Third party


15 posted on 01/01/2012 6:09:04 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: elcid1970; ncalburt

Here’s a partial list:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2827357/posts


16 posted on 01/01/2012 6:11:13 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: mkjessup

Unfortunately the lack of any decent conservative on the ticket right now has given Ron Paul a surge. I agree with Paul on about 96% of the issues, but the other 4% are Show Stoppers. I just don’t see anyone but (holding my nose) Romney at this point. Gingrich is a sleazeball and the others are not Presidential material.


17 posted on 01/01/2012 6:12:35 AM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out - Find a way further in.)
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To: elcid1970
For further proof (redundant, I know) that Ron Paul followers make the Moonies look like skeptical freethinkers, go to frontpagemag.com & look up any article with his name. The PaulBot commenters hysterically denounce ANY criticism of their Dear Leader, it would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

FrontPageMagazine [search engine top right]

18 posted on 01/01/2012 6:12:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 9YearLurker; All
I believe a lot of Ron Paul’s support is cynical (follow the money). Young people "looking forward" to no jobs in the Obama depression, or working on degrees in areas where government money could fund a study, a program (their professors have sucked on this tit for decades) -- instead of being “wasted” to support the "evil" military and “misguided” war on drugs -- which also ties into what they've been taught in many institutions of higher education -- so many useless degrees and “green” thinkers believing that Ron Paul is the Rx for what ails the country. So they're leaving support for Barack “hope and change” Obama at the school house/no job market door and flocking to Ron Paul which has the sweetener of hurting those “evil-rich” conservatives who are destroying the planet and are ready to “bomb” the world.

The problem for them is -- they never will get the money; it always finds another home. With the debt and deficit ballooned out of sight, that money isn't heading in their direction. The naturally productive ones will eventually “grow up” and realize the truth about living in a safe, free market society but many will hang fast to the hope (libertarians for sure) that once the "war on drugs" and the "evil military complex” have their wings clipped, some of those trillions of “wasted” dollars will certainly flow to them. It won't and their lot will be worse. We have for too long been building “me-me-itis” generations, whose values and goals are nurtured and fanned by teachings of socialist professors spawned in the Sixties who have multiplied themselves with our youth.

So Ron Paul is their cup of tea. They’re only one step away from OWS (most likely have a foot in both camps already). If Ron Paul definitively said, "I will not run third Party," much of his support would evaporate today. Which is precisely why he has not ruled it out.

19 posted on 01/01/2012 6:13:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Roy Baty
Unfortunately the lack of any decent conservative on the ticket right now has given Ron Paul a surge. ...

I beg to differ. The MSM blackout and distortion of Rick Perry's record along with the incessant "dumb" beat-down, has been an attempt by the media and the Mitt Romney/GOP establishment to side-line his nomination.

Gov. Rick Perry is the true, consistent conservative with small government credentials and record of achievement, who believes in American exceptionalism.

20 posted on 01/01/2012 6:18:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ll tell you why I support Ron Paul. My primary concern is the wild, unrestrained growth of the Federal government. If it continues, it will only be a few years before it bankrupts us, and then probably enslaves us. I look at my bank statement, trying to figure out when I’ll be able to retire. My conclusion is, at the current levels of inflation, rates of return in the market, coupled with the fact that Social Security will be gone by the time I get there, means I’ll never be able to retire. All of this I blame on the insane spending being done by the government.

I think Ron Paul is the candidate who will best limit Washington’s spending. I also think he’s the guy who will shut down the unending regulations coming from the executive branch, which is killing private industry. If it makes you feel any better, if Paul has no chance, and Rick Perry catches a wave, I’ll probably vote for Perry. Paul is my first choice, though.


21 posted on 01/01/2012 6:28:35 AM PST by Big E
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To: Big E

“My primary concern is the wild, unrestrained growth of the Federal government.”

Well that would be true for every poster here.


22 posted on 01/01/2012 6:30:51 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That alone should do him in.


23 posted on 01/01/2012 6:33:53 AM PST by jersey117 (.)
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To: Big E

And we all know that Ron Paul is very VERY evenhanded when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

350 million Arab Muslims versus 5 million Israeli Jews, of course the correct view is moral equivalence.


24 posted on 01/01/2012 6:35:28 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the Paul youth were a phenomenon of the last election—pre-crash and pre-Obama administration—as well. Kind of an OWS/libertarian mush, but fairly idealistic IMO. I also think there’s a fair mix of the personally productive within them.

They believe, rightly, that many of his policies would be good for the economy. And to a degree they are right that we have wasted national resources on misguided military adventurism. The ugly extremist underbelly of Paul they can either dismiss, be ignorant of, or secretly believe in as well.


25 posted on 01/01/2012 6:36:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Two guys knocked on my door yesterday to encourage me to support Ron Paul here in the Iowa Caucuses. One was from Montana and the other was here all the way from Sweden. I all but yelled at them calling Paul a nut who didn't care about Iran getting nukes and who reminded me of the guy on Boston Legal who killed his mother with a frying pan.
26 posted on 01/01/2012 6:43:35 AM PST by DungeonMaster (THE SHERIFF IS NEAR!)
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To: Big E

What a load of BS and lies !
The fraud Ron is a 32 year DC insider !
This Pork King of Congress Fought the GOP ban
On earmarks and was one of four gopers to Vote against it !
This fraud loaded up the PORK during the Obama regime to
The tune of 134,000,000 in 2009 !

Stop peddling lies for this 9-11 truther / Jew hater/
And vile but who called the us troops “ war criminals “during operation desert storm.


27 posted on 01/01/2012 6:46:57 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Big E
I’ll tell you why I support Ron Paul. My primary concern is the wild, unrestrained growth of the Federal government. If it continues, it will only be a few years before it bankrupts us, and then probably enslaves us.

What do yoy think Paul will do about it? He has been in Washington for over a quarter century. Can you name something, anything he has ever done to slow the growth of government? I know you can't because there is nothing.
The ONLY two things he has ever done is blame America for every problem in the world, and acquire more earmarks than any candidate running. Neither slows the growth of government.
28 posted on 01/01/2012 6:52:33 AM PST by John D
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To: John D

Exactly
These Oaul bots keep trying to rewrite the history
Of this Pork King


29 posted on 01/01/2012 6:57:33 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Roy Baty
Unfortunately the lack of any decent conservative on the ticket right now has given Ron Paul a surge. I agree with Paul on about 96% of the issues, but the other 4% are Show Stoppers. I just don’t see anyone but (holding my nose) Romney at this point. Gingrich is a sleazeball and the others are not Presidential material.

Hey, I find myself in agreement with SOME of Ron Paul's views, particularly the Federal Reserve and the need to return power to the States, and cut back the size and reach of the federal government. His statements regarding the emerging police state in this Nation are quite frankly, bang on.

Unfortunately, that 4 percent that you refer to Roy is indeed, the 'show stopper' - we could no more trust Ron Paul in the area of foreign policy than we could trust say, Barack 0bama? Ron Paul praises that traitor Bradley Manning as a HERO?!? Actually thinks that Iran poses no threat? Where-TF has he been since 1979 when the Assahollah Khomeini seized power? In foreign policy, Ron Paul is absolutely and utterly delusional.

Now Donald Rumsfeld said some wise words when he talked about "going to war with the Army you have, not the Army you would prefer to have in the future" (paraphrased) and that is unfortunately the way it is shaping up so far as the eventual GOP nominee.

Mitt Romney is nothing more than '0bama-lite', his policies and positions are barely to the right of 0bama, Romney has the audacity to now suggest that he is 'more conservative'? This is the guy who proclaimed that he was never part of the Reagan Revolution, that he was NOT in favor of going back to the 'Reagan Years', and for that alone Romney can KMA. The fact is, Governor Perry of Texas would damn sure be an improvement over the leftist turd currently stinking up the White House. So too would Rick Santorum. Likewise for Michele Bachmann, and yes: even "sleazeball" (your words Roy) Newt Gingrich.

We don't have any real excellent, Reaganesque type choices at this point. I wouldn't rule out a brokered convention next year, but I will say this: Ron Paul will NOT be the GOP nominee, it's not going to happen, and if he goes the third party route, HE will be the one responsible for giving 0bama a second term, along with those who vote for him.

(Got your FReepmail btw, and Happy New Year FRiend! ;)
30 posted on 01/01/2012 7:12:02 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: ncalburt

Hey, I said I believe Ron Paul will shrink the size of the Federal government. Earmarks are a drop in the bucket when you look at the overall government expenditures. I think Paul’s record is pretty consistent when you are talking about the expansion of government. This is what I believe. You obviously believe something else, and support somebody else. Don’t call me a liar.


31 posted on 01/01/2012 7:43:04 AM PST by Big E
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To: Big E

Again, what makes you think the surrender monkey will do anything. He has never done anything to help America. What make you think he will all of a sudden change?


32 posted on 01/01/2012 7:46:33 AM PST by John D
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To: John D

I think he’s the guy that talks about cutting the spending the most. His voting record has been about cutting the spending. Again, I don’t care about earmarks. When you’re talking about Medicare expansion, SCHIP, etc. Paul has voted against it. He has a specific plan to balance the budget. The other candidates seem very much less concerned about the spending. What has he done in Congress? Well, when you’re outnumbered 10-1 by politicians who want to increase the size of government, no, he has not reduced the size of government. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to. I could be wrong, but that’s how it looks to me.


33 posted on 01/01/2012 7:53:59 AM PST by Big E
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To: Big E
The world is full of kids who want to be pro football players, but few are capable. Cut and Run talks a good talk, but that is all he ever does.
While you and Paul may not be concerned with his wasteful spending I am. If he was truly against earmarks, like he says he is, why does he acquire them every chance he gets?
34 posted on 01/01/2012 7:59:33 AM PST by John D
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To: John D

Ok, who do you support?


35 posted on 01/01/2012 8:03:13 AM PST by Big E
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The dude’s a lunatic and anyone that supports him should be observed for lunacy.


36 posted on 01/01/2012 8:05:07 AM PST by kenmcg (How)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It must be very painful being a paultard .....having to twist yourself into pretzel to defend this clown almost daily....


37 posted on 01/01/2012 8:06:23 AM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: Big E

Anybody is better than the surrender monkey. Every other candidate has at least accomplished something other than wasting money.


38 posted on 01/01/2012 9:23:55 AM PST by John D
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To: mkjessup
If I told you where I work mk, I'd have to kill you, but suffice to say that Ron Paul is against the Patriot Act and some of our best tools to use against the bad guys were provided by that Act. Tools that were taken away by the dems in the 70’s and that Britain and most other countries have available to them.
39 posted on 01/01/2012 11:58:39 AM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out - Find a way further in.)
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To: Roy Baty
Roy, we're NOT Britain and "most other countries", the so-called Patriot Act is a double edged sword and if you work where I think you do, you probably know this. Catching the bad guys has always been the goal, the FBI for domestic espionage/sabotage, the CIA for dealing with foreign threats outside the CONUS, NSA for signals intelligence, collection and analysis, in addition to the myriad of alphabet soup agencies, some military, some not.

The majority of our intelligence gathering difficulties over the past 20 years can for the most part be laid at the feet of none other than Jamie Gorelick, who made it damn near impossible for intelligence agencies to share data, due to the construction of her infamous "wall" which effectively gave aid and assistance to the 9/11 hijackers, along with John Effin' Kerry, who stiff armed a pair of FAA security professionals who were desperate to warn him about the lack of security at Logan Airport in Boston, but that's another story for another time.

Nobody wants to see America suffer an intelligence failure as we did on 9/11 or at any other time. However our freedoms and liberties that are enshrined in our Constitution cannot be the price for 100 percent guaranteed intelligence gathering effectiveness. The Soviet Union had one of the most pervasive and efficient intelligence apparatus seen anywhere on the planet, of course the price was the mental and physical tyranny over their population.

I'm sure that our illustrious former President George W. Bush and "Pennsylvania's Tom Ridge" had the very best of intentions when the fascist Department of Homeland Security was created, how secure are we today? And moreover, how secure are we with 0bama and his anti-American cabal with their hands on those "best tools" you speak of?

Sorry Roy, at one time I was a fervent and unwaving supporter of GWB and creating any and every sort of intelligence mechanism to fight terrorism. Unfortunately, there were never any true controls integrated with those tools that provided any effective oversight over 'who' is/was designated a terrorist and who wasn't.

Janet Incompetentano, Eric Holder, just to name two. I don't know about you FRiend, but knowing those two liberal cruds have control of such investigative methods does NOT help me to sleep better at night, far from it.
40 posted on 01/01/2012 12:32:23 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: Big E

-——If it continues, it will only be a few years before it bankrupts us, and then probably enslaves us-——

Hate to be the bearer of bad news..........we are already there and Ron Paul Is the earmark king so what makes you think he will control spending?

What will you do when PaulPOTUS blows off Iran going nuclear and the world is on the brink of every Shiite whim and desire???


41 posted on 01/01/2012 3:00:10 PM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: Roy Baty
I just don’t see anyone but (holding my nose) Romney at this point.


42 posted on 01/01/2012 8:45:40 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: incindiary
100% False.

Paul, who unsuccessfully sought the Republican presidential nomination this year, told supporters at the National Press Club in Washington that he is not endorsing GOP nominee Sen. John McCain or Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama.

Instead, Paul will give his seal of approval to four candidates: Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney, Libertarian Party nominee Bob Barr, independent candidate Ralph Nader and Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-09-10/politics/paul.endorsement_1_paul-supporters-third-party-candidates-ron-paul-revolution?_s=PM:POLITICS

43 posted on 01/02/2012 12:15:48 AM PST by NoLibZone (Buffet proves calls for more taxes is to buy votes,not reduce deficits.He pays less than Bush rates.)
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To: shibumi

The Four Horsemen of the Lib Apocalypse......


44 posted on 01/02/2012 5:34:18 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: mkjessup
You want true controls and effective oversight mk, vote for Obama, he's good at that (if you think the feds are going to go around arresting conservatives, you have forgotten the 2nd amendment and the fact that most of us are well armed). I know its fun to blame Jaime Gorelick but it all began with the Church committee.
45 posted on 01/02/2012 1:24:44 PM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out - Find a way further in.)
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To: Roy Baty
Say WHAT?!? "You want true controls and effective oversight, vote for 0bama"

WTF have you been smokin' Roy?

(if you think the feds are going to go around arresting conservatives, you have forgotten the 2nd amendment and the fact that most of us are well armed)

My FRiend, if YOU think that the 2nd amendment would stop the Feds from attempting (whether or not it was successful or not) to round up and confiscate firearms from the public, you are living in a dream world. It doesn't matter one whit how many of us are well armed, between ignoring the Posse Comitatus Act and Comrade 0bama signing off on that damned NDAA and mewling that he "has the authority to arrest Americans but he won't do it" (how many of us believe and trust that sack o' sh*t?) all the Feds need is a reason, ANY reason to justify their attempt to disarm Americans "for the safety of the public" or as a "national security measure", if you work in the government, you know the phraseology already.

I know its fun to blame Jaime Gorelick but it all began with the Church committee.

I know all about the Church Committee, thank you very much but the fact is, Jamie Gorelick was instrumental in blocking communications between federal agencies, forcing them to use the Clinton Administration toadies as a clearance point or 'hub' if you will, before any data was exchanged. This allowed Bubba and Hillary to sell our asses out to the ChiComs in exchange for all sorts of campaign cash, but that too is history now.

I concede that the Patriot Act probably provides FINE investigative tools.

(Especially if we're talking about the many organs of a totalitarian state, which is exactly what is evolving in Washington.)

C'mon Roy, you're smarter than this. Ask yourself this question:

"WHY does the federal Department of Education need SWAT TEAMS?!?"
46 posted on 01/02/2012 2:21:57 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: mkjessup
Don't start with the Dept of education. We all know that is a waste as is most federal departments, I'm not going there, we agree. As for your weird Ron Paul type paranoia of some washington dope reading your emails, and arresting you since you are a conservative, I don't share your paranoia as I stated previously.
47 posted on 01/05/2012 6:09:50 AM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out - Find a way further in.)
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