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To: betty boop
To my mind, Reality is an "abstraction" from Truth, and not the other way around.

Just to annoy you (though if I cock my head in just the right way, I can perceive it the way you said)...

I suggest rather that Truth is the Master Class, and our "Reality" is an instantiation of a particular sub-class. /object-oriented gobbledygook>

Whitehead was addressing a problem which he identified as "the fallacy of misplaced concreteness." Scientific theories are "abstractions" from Reality, not Reality itself. The fallacy consists of "reducing" the latter to the former, to the point where the generating Reality is entirely eclipsed by its image, or abstraction.

And just to stir the pot some more, isn't it odd how much anthropomorphism goes into scientific explanations?

Listen to how many times we talk about what nature "wants" to do, or how elegant the "design" of an enzymatic binding site is, or the "purpose" of a particular adaptation (that last one is confusing the word "purpose" with "function"; and the two so often overlap in human experience, it is at least excusable as mere carelessness).

What makes it all the more jolly is that anthropomorphism is supposed to be the death-knell for any hope of veriferousness within theology, but quite understandable when explaining science. Given that God is held to be sentient, and with desires quite distinct from ours ("neither are my ways your ways, O House of Israel"), and humans are the most advanced conscious beings with whom we all agree we have dealings, shouldn't the discrediting be the other way around? (stir, stir, the pot)

(The use of abstractions and models is because they are the most *compact* representation, and the most reproducible, without worrying as much over any multicultural interpretations, and assurance that the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter really is PI, regardless of what language is spoken by the person with the tape measure; allowing, of course, for significant figures and assuming the experimental template is not out of round, and doesn't taper like a bowl.)

Cheers!

69 posted on 01/03/2012 3:30:20 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; A_perfect_lady; Mind-numbed Robot; aruanan; metmom; Matchett-PI; YHAOS; ...
And just to stir the pot some more, isn't it odd how much anthropomorphism goes into scientific explanations?

Well jeepers, what on earth could you expect otherwise? There would be no science at all were there not human minds to "mediate it."

To me, disparagement of the "anthropic principle" is totally jejune.... Not to mention pointless: The only world human beings know is the one reflected through human minds.

How's that for "stirring the pot?" LOLOL!!!

Thanks so much for writing, dear grey_whiskers!

74 posted on 01/03/2012 6:00:59 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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