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Marijuana Myths
TheCollegeConservative ^ | 02/03/2012 | Alan Groves

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by gabriellah

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To: Responsibility2nd
...full legalization would likely spark an even more acute increase in crime.

Full legalization would allow people to grow their own. No crime associated with that.
81 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:01 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: longtermmemmory
there is no need to smoke it instead of a less cancerous pill form.

Sure there is. If you smoke it, you can control the dosage.

There are plenty of complaints from medical marijuana patients who have taken Marinol stating it leaves them barely able to function and hold a conversation.

82 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:01 AM PST by gdani
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To: Moleman

Liberals are not on FR. Those advocating legalization are most likely constitutionalists or libertarians

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Like I said.... Liberals.

(changing tagline back to what I used to have...)


83 posted on 02/03/2012 12:00:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: longtermmemmory
Are you also advocating making cell phones, alcohol, radios and conversation illegal?
84 posted on 02/03/2012 12:01:02 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: rhombus

I think she was seen smoking a cig...........


85 posted on 02/03/2012 12:02:16 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: numberonepal
"The urine test is based on detection of 11-nor-delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol-9-carboxylic acid (9-carboxy-THC), a metabolite of delta-9-THC"
- http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000138.htm
86 posted on 02/03/2012 12:02:31 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: discostu
Maybe.....I dunno.

Probably right.......

87 posted on 02/03/2012 12:03:29 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Those advocating legalization are most likely constitutionalists or libertarians

Like I said.... Liberals.

Constitutionalists are liberals in your book?

88 posted on 02/03/2012 12:04:00 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: wideawake

‘If a person of reasonable intelligence thinks about the issue for more than five seconds, he will realize that legalization will have no meaningful impact on “the narco-terrorists” - just as the end of Prohibition had negligible impact on organized crime in America.

Unless you are prepared to argue that the mob ceased to exist on December 5, 1933.’

I find that to be a specious argument also, as the number of criminals dropped from a large percentage of the population to a small percentage. A large class of crimes disappeared, which in turn meant fewer criminals.

The ‘mob’ moved on to other profitable crimes, like illegal drugs. In fact, I’d argue that the mob has profited greatly by the War on Drugs. The government keeps this racket going.


89 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:15 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: rottndog
Full legalization would allow people to grow their own. No crime associated with that.

And if people were to grow their own, it would be nearly impossible to tax and people could compete with corporations/businesses interested in growing and selling it.

I'm convinced those reasons are why marijuana is not legalized or decriminalized. If Government knew it could make tons of tax money off it and businesses could reap untold profits, like with cigarettes and alcohol, marijuana would have been (re)legalized a long, long time ago.

90 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:19 PM PST by gdani
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To: rottndog

Full legalization would allow people to grow their own. No crime associated with that.

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Really? Can you grow your own tobacco? Can you distill your own booze?

Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.

And the same thing would happen if ever pot was legalized. If you think Big Brother would let you grow a few plants in your back yard without taxing them, then you are missing the point.

The main point of legalizing dope is to tax it and increase the size of government.

Again... just like with tobacco and booze.

But libertarians (who claim they are for smaller government) are too stupid to realize that.


91 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:38 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Reading your tag line it seems the 3rd grade must have been the best years of your life.
92 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:57 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you just skim by the absence of evidence that crimes have been created rather than simply relocated?

In Los Angeles, police report that areas surrounding cannabis clubs have experienced a 200 percent increase in robberies, a 52.2 percent increase in burglaries, a 57.1 percent increase in aggravated assault, and a 130.8 percent increase in burglaries from automobiles.

No evidence there that crimes have been created rather than simply relocated. Do you even understand the difference?

93 posted on 02/03/2012 12:06:52 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Osage Orange

Should have rolled her own. She could have passed. ;-)


94 posted on 02/03/2012 12:07:05 PM PST by rhombus
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Yep. At least the ones (like Ron Paul) who use the Constitution as Toilet Paper.


95 posted on 02/03/2012 12:07:05 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Really? Can you grow your own tobacco? Can you distill your own booze?

Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.

Apart from limits on amount, what "gubmint interference" is there on home-brewing?

And the same thing would happen if ever pot was legalized. If you think Big Brother would let you grow a few plants in your back yard without taxing them, then you are missing the point.

Home brewed alcohol is not taxed (as far as I know).

The main point of legalizing dope is to tax it and increase the size of government.

Again... just like with tobacco and booze.

So it would be better to ban tobacco and booze than to let government tax them? You really think that's the small-government position?

96 posted on 02/03/2012 12:10:05 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But libertarians (who claim they are for smaller government) are too stupid to realize that.

I'll take a libertarian who says it's no one's business what someone puts in their body over a "conservative" nanny-stater who supports a failed War on Drugs, the destruction of the Fourth Amendment, and a government that engages in both.

97 posted on 02/03/2012 12:10:10 PM PST by gdani
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To: gdani
If Government knew it could make tons of tax money off it...

Under the guise of 'a penny saved is a penny earned', governments at all levels would be far ahead money wise by not spending hundreds BILLIONS of dollars on the failed WOD in the first place.
98 posted on 02/03/2012 12:11:46 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Constitutionalists are liberals in your book?

Yep. At least the ones (like Ron Paul) who use the Constitution as Toilet Paper.

If he uses the Constitution as toilet paper, he's not a constitutionalist.

What part of the Constitution authorizes federal regulation of intrastate drug making, selling, or using?

99 posted on 02/03/2012 12:12:49 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: wxgesr
Crowd interaction has died down a lot too. I miss the old days of hazy crowds of dancing girls.

The girl's with Boone's Farm on their lips were alot easier in those days too. I don't know why people worry about the weed. ;-)

100 posted on 02/03/2012 12:13:33 PM PST by rhombus
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