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Marijuana Myths
TheCollegeConservative ^ | 02/03/2012 | Alan Groves

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by gabriellah

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To: Osage Orange
Easily. Give me evidence of ONE death due solely to consumption of cannabis. Or better yet, let's have an ER nurse join the thread, and ask her how many deaths she's seen from alcohol or tobacco consumption...provable causes of death. Ask her if she remembers ONE instance of death due to consuming pot.

I'll be here all week.

Marijuana laws are welfare for law enforcement.

101 posted on 02/03/2012 12:13:33 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: rottndog
Under the guise of 'a penny saved is a penny earned', governments at all levels would be far ahead money wise by not spending hundreds BILLIONS of dollars on the failed WOD in the first place.

As you know, you're giving Government far too much credit.

102 posted on 02/03/2012 12:14:56 PM PST by gdani
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To: Responsibility2nd
The main point of legalizing dope is to tax it and increase the size of government.

And the WOD has DECREASED the size of government???

Legalization would REDUCE the size of government.
103 posted on 02/03/2012 12:15:02 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

No evidence there that crimes have been created rather than simply relocated. Do you even understand the difference?

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No, I really don’t.

Explain to me how there is a difference in crime that was created because of LEGAL marijuana and crime that was relocated because of ILLEGAL marijuana.

Crime is crime. And if pot was legal - there would be more of it.


104 posted on 02/03/2012 12:15:23 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: svcw

Google Marinol.

The legal version exists, and is available.


105 posted on 02/03/2012 12:16:57 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Really? Can you grow your own tobacco? Can you distill your own booze?

Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.

Both are perfectly legal for personal consumption as is beer and wine making. Only if I decide to start selling it does the government claim to have any say over it.

106 posted on 02/03/2012 12:17:48 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: rottndog
Legalization would REDUCE the size of government.
 
 
Still wrong. Did legalization of alcohol reduce the size of government?

107 posted on 02/03/2012 12:19:32 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
It’s not a lie.

Yes it is - here are the facts again: according to research cited by the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine, of all those who ever used marijuana, 9% have at some point been addicted to it - whereas the corresponding figure for alcohol is 15%.

Did you read that Heritage Foundation report?

That's how I found that lie of theirs.

108 posted on 02/03/2012 12:19:32 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: gabriellah

Weak, very weak. There are stronger cases that could be made, the author chooses not to use them. No one says alcohol and mj are equally mild. They say that relative to mj, etoh is a horrifyingly dangerous product that results in the destruction of families, properties,and lives every day.


109 posted on 02/03/2012 12:20:12 PM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Gingrich)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
I work with the Children of all abusers. Alcohol, Drugs, Prescription, and street. Try and explain to them its okay for all the users and abusers to control their intake and not affect others.
110 posted on 02/03/2012 12:20:32 PM PST by easternsky
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To: Responsibility2nd
No evidence there that crimes have been created rather than simply relocated. Do you even understand the difference?

No, I really don’t.

OK, pay close attention: if last year there were 50 crimes in area A and 550 in area B, while this year there were 70 in A and 530 in B, crime has simply been relocated from B to A, not created since there were 600 crimes each year.

111 posted on 02/03/2012 12:23:46 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

simple solution, if you use “medical” pot then you are prohibited from driving. period. no drivers license until 30 days after the “treatment stops” and six months of automatic monthly drug testing the “patient” pays for consisting of 8 random tests with 8 hours notice.


112 posted on 02/03/2012 12:24:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AnTiw1

I do not post very often for reasons just like this. Do I like to use a wrong word, of couse not but if thats all you can find wrong with my post keep it to yourself.


113 posted on 02/03/2012 12:25:19 PM PST by easternsky
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To: easternsky
That's easily explained: the ones with unscrambled brains are able to hid their use.

I work with the Children of all abusers. Alcohol, Drugs, Prescription, and street. Try and explain to them its okay for all the users and abusers to control their intake and not affect others.

Should we protect the children of alcohol abusers by banning alcohol?

114 posted on 02/03/2012 12:26:23 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Did legalization of alcohol reduce the size of government?

Inasmuch as all the tax money that was required to enforce prohibition and combat the crime it caused was then diverted to more appropriate and productive uses, or not spent at all, yes.
115 posted on 02/03/2012 12:27:29 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: longtermmemmory
People die now due to someone drunk and driving. Is that sufficient reason to ban alcohol?

simple solution, if you use “medical” pot then you are prohibited from driving. period. no drivers license until 30 days after the “treatment stops” and six months of automatic monthly drug testing the “patient” pays for consisting of 8 random tests with 8 hours notice.

Same rule for alcohol - or prescription painkillers?

116 posted on 02/03/2012 12:28:06 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: wideawake

Prohibition CREATED the mob. THAT genie wasn’t ever going to be put back in the bottle.


117 posted on 02/03/2012 12:28:24 PM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Gingrich)
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To: gabriellah

Alcohol kills tens of thousands a year in just auto crashes alone. How many are due to pot use?

This dismissive attitude towards alcohol simply because it is a part of society is silly. Pot was part of society, too, until big business didn’t like it as a competitor.


118 posted on 02/03/2012 12:29:23 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: longtermmemmory
A friend who had been prescribed the pill form of THC during chemo for non-Hodgkins Lymphoma said the pills (then only 4 per day at $5.00 per pill) did not work as well as the plant as an antinauseant. Back then (mid-'80s), he could also get the plant cheaper. Cheaper and better were reasons enough for him to risk getting in trouble, partly because he could not work. IIRC there are other substances in the unadulterated plant which are not in the pill.

Speaking of unadulterated, how much of the crime is due to pot that has been laced with 'angel dust' (PCP) or other chemicals?

The LEOs I know said that was more of a problem insofar as violent crime went because all the people smoking homegrown were pretty mellow, even when they got busted.

119 posted on 02/03/2012 12:30:22 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

The Children say YES


120 posted on 02/03/2012 12:31:54 PM PST by easternsky
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