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Marijuana Myths
TheCollegeConservative ^ | 02/03/2012 | Alan Groves

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by gabriellah

In 2011, Gallup reported that 62% of 18-29 year olds and 50% of the general public supports the legalization of marijuana; 69% of liberals and even 34% of conservatives also support such measures. Obviously the pro-pot movement has taken root in the American populace and especially in the minds of Millennials (even managing to infiltrate the minds of the most conservative among us).

Myth #1: Legalization Would bring in Enormous Tax Revenues

The Heritage Foundation’s Charles Stimson published an extensive legal memorandum urging for the failure of the RCTC Act of 2010, which would have legalized pot in California. This memorandum debunks the myth that legalization would eliminate the black market for marijuana and would bring in enormous revenue, therefore stimulating the economy.

Dr. Rosalie Pacula, a drug policy expert at the RAND Corporation for over 15 years, testified that under the California law: “There would be tremendous profit motive for the existing black market providers to stay in the market. The only way California could effectively eliminate the black market for marijuana is to take away the substantial profits in the market and allow the price of marijuana to fall to an amount close to the cost of production. Doing so, however, will mean substantially smaller tax revenue”(Stimson 9).

In other words, simple economics expose the assumption that drug dealers would voluntarily enter the legal market, when the cost of production is virtually zero. In fact, it was calculated that “an individual will be able to produce 24,000 to 240,000 joints legally each year” (Stimson 9). This is more than any individual could possibly consume, and it is encouraging individuals to sell pot on the side, subverting taxation. Why would anyone buy marijuana legally when they would have to pay a higher price for it? It would be a much higher price considering California proposed a $50/ounce tax on top of the list price. Why would drug dealers leave the black market when they don’t have to?

Fiscal conservatives should not be lured into such intellectual inconsistency. We are not going to solve the budget crises and pay off our $15 trillion debt with whatever change is left from a feeble government attempt to tax the un-taxable.

Myth #2: Marijuana is a Victimless Drug

Marijuana has a history of being linked to crime in the United States and throughout the world. “60% of arrestees test positive for marijuana use in the United States, England, and Australia” (Stimson 6). And while many pro-legalization advocates argue that most of these marijuana users are people arrested for non-violent crimes, they fail to note that marijuana usage is strongly correlated with cocaine and other more serious drugs, as well as murder, assault, money laundering, and smuggling (Stimson 5-6). Surely, legalization advocates do not believe that all marijuana users are little angels?

In fact, in Amsterdam, one of Europe’s most violent cities, pot is legal and a prevalent aspect of society (Stimson 6). Heritage reports that “Officials are in the process of closing marijuana dispensaries, or ‘coffee shops,’ because of the crime associated with their operation” (Stimson 6).

California’s partial legalization via usage of “medical marijuana” is beginning to show the same effects. LAPD reports that areas surrounding cannabis clubs have seen a 200% increase in robberies and a 130.8% increase in aggravated assault (Stimson 6). A drug that increases crime doesn’t exactly qualify as “victimless.”

In addition to this, local communities where neighborhoods and residential housing are dominant will be adversely affected. Residents who live in areas with extensive marijuana usage have repeatedly complained about the incredible smell put off by the plants. Even worse than the smell though, is the growing crime rate in residential areas which is induced by theft of marijuana from yards where it is grown (Stimson 6).

It may be ideologically convenient for some to oversimplify the issue as a violation against individual liberty, but when all the facts are presented, it is obvious that the only liberty being violated is the blatant disregard for property rights, law, and order.

Myth #3: Marijuana = Alcohol

Legalization advocates link marijuana and alcohol as equally mild intoxicants, suggesting that they deserve equal treatment under the law. However, as the above research suggests, marijuana is more dangerous to the health and safety of society.

For better or for worse, alcohol as been part of human history for millennia. Typically, individuals responsibly self-monitor their consumption thereof. Alcohol has also been regulated by cultural norms rather than by government. Society, culture, and religion have proven to be the best regulators of alcoholic consumption. The same cannot be said of marijuana – as seen in the information presented earlier.

In addition to its lack of historical precedent in America’s historical experience, marijuana also has much more severe health effects than alcohol. 1) marijuana is far more likely than alcohol to be cause addiction, 2) it is usually consumed to the point of intoxication, 3) it has no known intrinsically healthful properties (it can only relieve pain –and artificially at that), 4) it has toxins that can result in birth defects, pain, respiratory damage, brain damage, and stroke, 5) it increases heart rate by 20% to 100% elevating the risk of heart attack (Stimson 4).

In relation to history, economics, and health, marijuana is nothing like alcohol.

Conclusion: Conservatives should not be afraid to combat the growing sentiment that supports the legalization of marijuana. Economics, historical precedent, and conservative principles are all on our side. It is up to unashamed, unapologetic young conservatives to articulate that message and continue to stand for ordered liberty.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: anslingersghost; drugs; drugwarnazis; jackbootedthugs; marijuana; reefermadness; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: Osage Orange

Pot smokers are used to hiding their activity, usually with the rain cup. Cigarette smokers usually use the open hold which lets everybody see.


61 posted on 02/03/2012 11:46:38 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: gabriellah
Myth #3: Marijuana = Alcohol Legalization advocates link marijuana and alcohol as equally mild intoxicants, suggesting that they deserve equal treatment under the law. However, as the above research suggests, marijuana is more dangerous to the health and safety of society.

This is nonsense... Alcohol can cause greater physical harm for example to the liver.

62 posted on 02/03/2012 11:46:38 AM PST by Moleman
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To: gabriellah
In 2011, Gallup reported that 62% of 18-29 year olds and 50% of the general public supports the legalization of marijuana;
no wonder food prices went up....
63 posted on 02/03/2012 11:46:41 AM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you just skim by the many articles that show how these pot shops have created more crimes in the areas they are located?

Do you just skim by the absence of evidence that crimes have been created rather than simply relocated?

64 posted on 02/03/2012 11:47:09 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Are you so clueless as to predict disaster and not see that crime is down over the period that California defacto legalized it?

Neighbor complaints are anecdotal not evidence that crime is up due to pot shops.

Crime is down in California over the same time period that defacto legalization happened.

But some neighbors made complaints!!!!!

Delusional!

65 posted on 02/03/2012 11:48:00 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: numberonepal
Inert metabolic byproducts

THC?

THC does not stay in the system for 30 days.

66 posted on 02/03/2012 11:48:08 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Not if...the States and Feds try and tax it way too much.

From the article....they said CA even suggested a $50 per ounce tax. Of course it's CA...and they are dumb and crazy.

If that were the case though.....I could see growers still growing.

FWIW

67 posted on 02/03/2012 11:48:21 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: rhombus

Crowd interaction has died down a lot too. I miss the old days of hazy crowds of dancing girls.


68 posted on 02/03/2012 11:48:39 AM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: gabriellah

I have seen the damage that pot usage can and does cause.... it is not pretty... having said that, the penalties for simple possession are far more damaging to the indivudual than the drug itself.....and this does not take into account swat team raids resulting in death.... legalization, no.... decriminalization, yes..


69 posted on 02/03/2012 11:48:52 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then.

The fact that some looney tunes nutjobs agree with me, doesn't disprove anything I said.

Hey, I bet they also agree with me that murder is wrong. Does that negate my assertion????
70 posted on 02/03/2012 11:48:56 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: gabriellah
Tobacco and alcohol have caused more deaths in one day in this country than cannabis has caused globally from the dinosaurs to the present.

This article is "Reefer Madness" buttwipe and the insinuation that a person is liberal because of cannabis use is the big brown hashmark down the middle of it.

71 posted on 02/03/2012 11:50:16 AM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: svcw

there ARE pills!

it is just the pot heads trying to create an excuse to use pot recreationally.

there is no need to smoke it instead of a less cancerous pill form.


72 posted on 02/03/2012 11:50:56 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It is beyond belief that there are so many liberals here at FR who want to legalize this.

Liberals are not on FR. Those advocating legalization are most likely constitutionalists or libertarians

73 posted on 02/03/2012 11:51:56 AM PST by Moleman
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To: allmendream
Yep.....

Sounds like what maryjane smokers are looking for.

74 posted on 02/03/2012 11:51:56 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: svcw

There only side-effects if you don’t want them.............


75 posted on 02/03/2012 11:53:11 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: allmendream; JustSayNoToNannies

“Delusional!”

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You certainly are.

From that Heritage Foundation article....

Amsterdam’s experience is already being duplicated in California under the current medical marijuana statute. In Los Angeles, police report that areas surrounding cannabis clubs have experienced a 200 percent increase in robberies, a 52.2 percent increase in burglaries, a 57.1 percent increase in aggravated assault, and a 130.8 percent increase in burglaries from automobiles. Current law requires a doctor’s prescription to procure marijuana; full legalization would likely spark an even more acute increase in crime.


76 posted on 02/03/2012 11:53:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Newt or else. What part of "Join or Die" don't you understand?)
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To: gdani
Heck, in Ohio you can have up to 100 grams personal possession and all you get is a minor misdemeanor

That right there is just common sense....

77 posted on 02/03/2012 11:55:12 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Sudetenland

It’s very simple. You are on the same side of the issue as Barney Frank and Ron Paul.

How’s about you name me one conservative who is for legalizing pot.

Just one.

(And Bill Buckley is dead. And he was NO conservative.)


78 posted on 02/03/2012 11:57:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Newt or else. What part of "Join or Die" don't you understand?)
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To: easternsky
" I personally have never met a Pot Head who did not have a scrambled brain. They have the Medical shops all over in California, set outside one for awhile and observe the consumers. Very enlighting. "

Unless you the sun, you sit, you do not "set". And your post is very "enlightening", Jethro.

A (Conservative) Scrambled Brained Pot Head

79 posted on 02/03/2012 11:57:33 AM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: AnTiw1
Tobacco and alcohol have caused more deaths in one day in this country than cannabis has caused globally from the dinosaurs to the present.

And you can prove this, right?????

LOL!!

80 posted on 02/03/2012 11:58:17 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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