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Marijuana Myths
TheCollegeConservative ^ | 02/03/2012 | Alan Groves

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by gabriellah

In 2011, Gallup reported that 62% of 18-29 year olds and 50% of the general public supports the legalization of marijuana; 69% of liberals and even 34% of conservatives also support such measures. Obviously the pro-pot movement has taken root in the American populace and especially in the minds of Millennials (even managing to infiltrate the minds of the most conservative among us).

Myth #1: Legalization Would bring in Enormous Tax Revenues

The Heritage Foundation’s Charles Stimson published an extensive legal memorandum urging for the failure of the RCTC Act of 2010, which would have legalized pot in California. This memorandum debunks the myth that legalization would eliminate the black market for marijuana and would bring in enormous revenue, therefore stimulating the economy.

Dr. Rosalie Pacula, a drug policy expert at the RAND Corporation for over 15 years, testified that under the California law: “There would be tremendous profit motive for the existing black market providers to stay in the market. The only way California could effectively eliminate the black market for marijuana is to take away the substantial profits in the market and allow the price of marijuana to fall to an amount close to the cost of production. Doing so, however, will mean substantially smaller tax revenue”(Stimson 9).

In other words, simple economics expose the assumption that drug dealers would voluntarily enter the legal market, when the cost of production is virtually zero. In fact, it was calculated that “an individual will be able to produce 24,000 to 240,000 joints legally each year” (Stimson 9). This is more than any individual could possibly consume, and it is encouraging individuals to sell pot on the side, subverting taxation. Why would anyone buy marijuana legally when they would have to pay a higher price for it? It would be a much higher price considering California proposed a $50/ounce tax on top of the list price. Why would drug dealers leave the black market when they don’t have to?

Fiscal conservatives should not be lured into such intellectual inconsistency. We are not going to solve the budget crises and pay off our $15 trillion debt with whatever change is left from a feeble government attempt to tax the un-taxable.

Myth #2: Marijuana is a Victimless Drug

Marijuana has a history of being linked to crime in the United States and throughout the world. “60% of arrestees test positive for marijuana use in the United States, England, and Australia” (Stimson 6). And while many pro-legalization advocates argue that most of these marijuana users are people arrested for non-violent crimes, they fail to note that marijuana usage is strongly correlated with cocaine and other more serious drugs, as well as murder, assault, money laundering, and smuggling (Stimson 5-6). Surely, legalization advocates do not believe that all marijuana users are little angels?

In fact, in Amsterdam, one of Europe’s most violent cities, pot is legal and a prevalent aspect of society (Stimson 6). Heritage reports that “Officials are in the process of closing marijuana dispensaries, or ‘coffee shops,’ because of the crime associated with their operation” (Stimson 6).

California’s partial legalization via usage of “medical marijuana” is beginning to show the same effects. LAPD reports that areas surrounding cannabis clubs have seen a 200% increase in robberies and a 130.8% increase in aggravated assault (Stimson 6). A drug that increases crime doesn’t exactly qualify as “victimless.”

In addition to this, local communities where neighborhoods and residential housing are dominant will be adversely affected. Residents who live in areas with extensive marijuana usage have repeatedly complained about the incredible smell put off by the plants. Even worse than the smell though, is the growing crime rate in residential areas which is induced by theft of marijuana from yards where it is grown (Stimson 6).

It may be ideologically convenient for some to oversimplify the issue as a violation against individual liberty, but when all the facts are presented, it is obvious that the only liberty being violated is the blatant disregard for property rights, law, and order.

Myth #3: Marijuana = Alcohol

Legalization advocates link marijuana and alcohol as equally mild intoxicants, suggesting that they deserve equal treatment under the law. However, as the above research suggests, marijuana is more dangerous to the health and safety of society.

For better or for worse, alcohol as been part of human history for millennia. Typically, individuals responsibly self-monitor their consumption thereof. Alcohol has also been regulated by cultural norms rather than by government. Society, culture, and religion have proven to be the best regulators of alcoholic consumption. The same cannot be said of marijuana – as seen in the information presented earlier.

In addition to its lack of historical precedent in America’s historical experience, marijuana also has much more severe health effects than alcohol. 1) marijuana is far more likely than alcohol to be cause addiction, 2) it is usually consumed to the point of intoxication, 3) it has no known intrinsically healthful properties (it can only relieve pain –and artificially at that), 4) it has toxins that can result in birth defects, pain, respiratory damage, brain damage, and stroke, 5) it increases heart rate by 20% to 100% elevating the risk of heart attack (Stimson 4).

In relation to history, economics, and health, marijuana is nothing like alcohol.

Conclusion: Conservatives should not be afraid to combat the growing sentiment that supports the legalization of marijuana. Economics, historical precedent, and conservative principles are all on our side. It is up to unashamed, unapologetic young conservatives to articulate that message and continue to stand for ordered liberty.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: anslingersghost; drugs; drugwarnazis; jackbootedthugs; marijuana; reefermadness; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: Responsibility2nd
...full legalization would likely spark an even more acute increase in crime.

Full legalization would allow people to grow their own. No crime associated with that.
81 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:01 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: longtermmemmory
there is no need to smoke it instead of a less cancerous pill form.

Sure there is. If you smoke it, you can control the dosage.

There are plenty of complaints from medical marijuana patients who have taken Marinol stating it leaves them barely able to function and hold a conversation.

82 posted on 02/03/2012 11:59:01 AM PST by gdani
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To: Moleman

Liberals are not on FR. Those advocating legalization are most likely constitutionalists or libertarians

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Like I said.... Liberals.

(changing tagline back to what I used to have...)


83 posted on 02/03/2012 12:00:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: longtermmemmory
Are you also advocating making cell phones, alcohol, radios and conversation illegal?
84 posted on 02/03/2012 12:01:02 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: rhombus

I think she was seen smoking a cig...........


85 posted on 02/03/2012 12:02:16 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: numberonepal
"The urine test is based on detection of 11-nor-delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol-9-carboxylic acid (9-carboxy-THC), a metabolite of delta-9-THC"
- http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000138.htm
86 posted on 02/03/2012 12:02:31 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: discostu
Maybe.....I dunno.

Probably right.......

87 posted on 02/03/2012 12:03:29 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Those advocating legalization are most likely constitutionalists or libertarians

Like I said.... Liberals.

Constitutionalists are liberals in your book?

88 posted on 02/03/2012 12:04:00 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: wideawake

‘If a person of reasonable intelligence thinks about the issue for more than five seconds, he will realize that legalization will have no meaningful impact on “the narco-terrorists” - just as the end of Prohibition had negligible impact on organized crime in America.

Unless you are prepared to argue that the mob ceased to exist on December 5, 1933.’

I find that to be a specious argument also, as the number of criminals dropped from a large percentage of the population to a small percentage. A large class of crimes disappeared, which in turn meant fewer criminals.

The ‘mob’ moved on to other profitable crimes, like illegal drugs. In fact, I’d argue that the mob has profited greatly by the War on Drugs. The government keeps this racket going.


89 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:15 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: rottndog
Full legalization would allow people to grow their own. No crime associated with that.

And if people were to grow their own, it would be nearly impossible to tax and people could compete with corporations/businesses interested in growing and selling it.

I'm convinced those reasons are why marijuana is not legalized or decriminalized. If Government knew it could make tons of tax money off it and businesses could reap untold profits, like with cigarettes and alcohol, marijuana would have been (re)legalized a long, long time ago.

90 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:19 PM PST by gdani
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To: rottndog

Full legalization would allow people to grow their own. No crime associated with that.

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Really? Can you grow your own tobacco? Can you distill your own booze?

Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.

And the same thing would happen if ever pot was legalized. If you think Big Brother would let you grow a few plants in your back yard without taxing them, then you are missing the point.

The main point of legalizing dope is to tax it and increase the size of government.

Again... just like with tobacco and booze.

But libertarians (who claim they are for smaller government) are too stupid to realize that.


91 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:38 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Reading your tag line it seems the 3rd grade must have been the best years of your life.
92 posted on 02/03/2012 12:05:57 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you just skim by the absence of evidence that crimes have been created rather than simply relocated?

In Los Angeles, police report that areas surrounding cannabis clubs have experienced a 200 percent increase in robberies, a 52.2 percent increase in burglaries, a 57.1 percent increase in aggravated assault, and a 130.8 percent increase in burglaries from automobiles.

No evidence there that crimes have been created rather than simply relocated. Do you even understand the difference?

93 posted on 02/03/2012 12:06:52 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Osage Orange

Should have rolled her own. She could have passed. ;-)


94 posted on 02/03/2012 12:07:05 PM PST by rhombus
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Yep. At least the ones (like Ron Paul) who use the Constitution as Toilet Paper.


95 posted on 02/03/2012 12:07:05 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Really? Can you grow your own tobacco? Can you distill your own booze?

Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.

Apart from limits on amount, what "gubmint interference" is there on home-brewing?

And the same thing would happen if ever pot was legalized. If you think Big Brother would let you grow a few plants in your back yard without taxing them, then you are missing the point.

Home brewed alcohol is not taxed (as far as I know).

The main point of legalizing dope is to tax it and increase the size of government.

Again... just like with tobacco and booze.

So it would be better to ban tobacco and booze than to let government tax them? You really think that's the small-government position?

96 posted on 02/03/2012 12:10:05 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But libertarians (who claim they are for smaller government) are too stupid to realize that.

I'll take a libertarian who says it's no one's business what someone puts in their body over a "conservative" nanny-stater who supports a failed War on Drugs, the destruction of the Fourth Amendment, and a government that engages in both.

97 posted on 02/03/2012 12:10:10 PM PST by gdani
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To: gdani
If Government knew it could make tons of tax money off it...

Under the guise of 'a penny saved is a penny earned', governments at all levels would be far ahead money wise by not spending hundreds BILLIONS of dollars on the failed WOD in the first place.
98 posted on 02/03/2012 12:11:46 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Constitutionalists are liberals in your book?

Yep. At least the ones (like Ron Paul) who use the Constitution as Toilet Paper.

If he uses the Constitution as toilet paper, he's not a constitutionalist.

What part of the Constitution authorizes federal regulation of intrastate drug making, selling, or using?

99 posted on 02/03/2012 12:12:49 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: wxgesr
Crowd interaction has died down a lot too. I miss the old days of hazy crowds of dancing girls.

The girl's with Boone's Farm on their lips were alot easier in those days too. I don't know why people worry about the weed. ;-)

100 posted on 02/03/2012 12:13:33 PM PST by rhombus
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