Is Israel losing Temple Mount war?

Ynet ^ | February 25, 2012 | Amir Shoan

[grey_whiskers]

*PING* to SunkenCiv unless this is actually one of your threads...

Many believe the Ark is no longer in Jerusalem. Hasn’t been since the time of Solomon.

I don’t know where it is, but it may not be there.

Don't worry, there are top people working on it.

Cheers!

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

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[Mmogamer]

I read somewhere a few years ago that the Ark is in a cave under Golgotha. That it rests under where Christ was crucified.

[DNA.2012]

Christ already came, as spiritual savior, not as war leader.

[DNA.2012]

Why does that specific place matter to you?

[LukeL]

The Temple Mount is where Abraham offered up Isaac to God, where the two Jewish Temples were, and where the 3rd Temple will be in the 1,000 year reign.

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

Clearly the messiah has not come because,when he does,he will bring peace. He will be fully human and his mission will have nothing to do with spiritual salvation.

j*sus has not fulfilled any of the messianic requirements,which means he is not the messiah.

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

Clearly the messiah has not come because,when he does,he will bring peace. He will be fully human and his mission will have nothing to do with spiritual salvation.

j*sus has not fulfilled any of the messianic requirements,which means he is not the messiah.

[DNA.2012]

Hypothetically, if there was no Temple Mount, and thus would be no Third Temple, would that alter your religious views?

[DNA.2012]

j*sus has not fulfilled any of the messianic requirements,which means he is not the messiah.

It means that "messiah" - tribal war leader - and "Christ" - spiritual savior - really never meant the same thing at all.

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

Exactly. The Jewish messiah and the c*ristian messiah are not the same.

[DNA.2012]

Messiah and Christ respectively then.

[Bellflower]

When people talk about the Ark of The Covenant they often don't speak about The Mercy Seat which sits on top of it. The Mercy Seat is likely Jesus’ throne during the Millennium.

[U-238]

The actual Ark with the two cherubs on the lid of the ark and the two poles holding it.

[U-238]

It should look something like this.

[Bellflower]

Clearly the messiah has not come because,when he does,he will bring peace. He will be fully human and his mission will have nothing to do with spiritual salvation.

Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

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Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

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Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this [is] his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.

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Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.

Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psa 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish [from] the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that put their trust in him.

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Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

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Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.

Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isa 53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

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Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn. _________________________________________________

[wafflehouse]

I am of the opinion that there will be a lot of surprised folks when that happens.

Isaiah 56:3 Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say, “The Lord will surely separate me from his people”

Isaiah 66:
17“Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one in the midst, eating pig’s flesh and the abomination and mice, shall come to an end together, declares the Lord.

18“For I know their works and their thoughts, and the time is coming to gather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and shall see my glory

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

These are from the KJV,are they not?

I can give you the correct translations,which are not found in the KJV.

Also,in ‘Kiss the son’,it is a lower-case ‘s’ as there are no capitals letters in Hebrew. This means that j*sus is not the individual the Hebrew Bible is speaking of.

[Bellflower]

I can give you the correct translations,which are not found in the KJV.

Please do.