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Once Again I will Posit Adoption for Barack Obama.
Various | 3/1/2012 | DiogenesLamp

Posted on 03/01/2012 1:50:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp

I just finished Watching Sheriff Arpaio's press conference. The Sheriff's posse has concluded that the document was created on a computer and is therefore a forgery.

I will once again point out that if Obama was adopted, he would get a replacement birth certificate that will be designed to look like an original 1961 birth certificate, but it will in fact have been created by the Department of Health in the State of Hawaii at the Direction of an Hawaiian State Judge.

"The Obama was Adopted" theory addresses the "forgery" issue head on, and precludes it from being a crime. In my opinion, this is the simplest explanation for the fact that Obama's document looks cobbled together, and that Hawaii is tacitly confirming it as legitimate.

I will further add, (for those who have not already been so informed) that *I* was adopted, and *I* have a birth certificate which was created six years after I was born, and is in fact a replacement birth certificate that lists my new last name, new parent's names, etc.

This theory ties up a lot of the loose ends neatly (not all of them) and it doesn't involve believing that the Hawaiian government is involved in a criminal "conspiracy." I urge people to consider this idea before jumping to the conclusion that everyone involved with producing this document has committed a criminal act.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birftards; birthcertificate; certifigate; kerkorian; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Fred Nerks
You can dance around this issue until the moon turns blue as far as I’m concerned, in 1982 when the Goelnders visited the Dunhams in Hawaii, Madelyn told Virginia that they had been looking after the boy since his mother died in 1970, and that’s exactly what Virginia repeated. Why Madelyn would say that is another story. But it’s obvious what she DIDN’T say is that Stanley Ann Dunham died in 1970.

I remember this being alleged. I don't remember if I saw an actual reference for it. Do you have a link?

361 posted on 03/05/2012 3:04:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Whether Frank Davis was a communist Pedophile is immaterial to the fact that he experienced life in Kansas during the 1920s, and wrote about it.

Why?

Are your feelings so hurt that this is the best you can do?

Why would my feelings be hurt because of what a Communist pedophile wrote? I don't read his work. You do.
362 posted on 03/05/2012 3:07:23 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Fred Nerks; mojitojoe; LucyT
No. Read through his messages and you will see he and I have very different beliefs.

Wow! that was a fast response!
363 posted on 03/05/2012 3:10:13 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: DiogenesLamp

ok...so as the comment you cited was between the two of you, I will repeat it here and reply in capitals between the text:

To: DiogenesLamp
Just finished reading your great link (print version):

http://www.sherwoodvoice.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.prt

What the ???????!!!!!!!, did you see these statements?

1. “Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”

IN 1970, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ‘YOUNG’ - IN 1982 WHEN THE GOELDNERS VISITED THE DUNHAMS, HE WAS ALREADY ON THE MAINLAND. VIRGINIA WOULD HARDLY ASSUME HIS MOTHER HAD DIED, SHE MUST HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT.

2. “When Ann died at an early age, it was Virginia’s brother and sister-in-law who raised the future president.”

ANN DIED AT AN EARLY AGE. NOT STANLEY ANN DUNHAM, NOT ‘THEIR DAUGHTER DIED AT AN EARLY AGE’. ‘ANN DIED’
WHO WAS ‘ANN’ ?
WAS SHE ANN S OBAMA - SHOWN IN THE POLK AT THE BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT ADDRESS?
WAS SHE THE ‘ANN’ SHOWN WITH THE KENYAN AT THE NACHMANNOF SOCIAL GATHERING?
WAS SHE THE GIRL WITH HER ARM AROUND THE KENYAN IN THE DOCK IMAGE?

3. “Obama’s grandfather, Stanley, left Kansas and moved to Texas and it was in the Seattle area where his mother Stanley Ann Dunham, WAS BORN.”

SO VIRGINIA DOESN’T KNOW WHERE STANLEY ANN DUNHAM WAS BORN? MIGHT BE BECAUSE THE FAMILIES HAD VERY LITTLE CONTACT, AND THE DUNHAMS MOVED AROUND?

4.”Stanley Armour Dunham, who was Barack Obama’s grandfather, who died in 1982;”

NOW THERE’S A TRUE TYPO...HE DIED IN 1992. THE GOELDNERS ARE SHOWN WITH HIM IN HAWAII ON VIDEO IN 1982.

I think the Ann Dunham as Barry’s mom story just took a serious hit.

ME TOO. BUT THAT WASN’T THE FIRST TIME. VIRGINIA DID THE BEST SHE COULD WITH WHAT SHE THOUGHT SHE KNEW.

253 posted on Monday, 1 August 2011 2:07:11 PM by Dakkster


364 posted on 03/05/2012 3:25:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Brown Deer

I’m going to quit, I gave it my best shot, it’s like talking to LorenC and the fogbow cabal. Life’s too short for that BS.


365 posted on 03/05/2012 3:29:47 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Brown Deer

I think i’m going to ignore you from now on. Scream away.


366 posted on 03/05/2012 3:46:28 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
What was it Christ said about worrying about the mote in your brothers eye?

That comment alone reveals you for a nutcase supreme. If my and your betters - meaning people who really know their stuff concerning zero - have given up dealing with you, I'm certainly not going to waste my precious human life doing so.

367 posted on 03/05/2012 3:55:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Provide a link to that first photo and also indicate which one you think is Stanley Anne the pinko slut please.


368 posted on 03/05/2012 4:31:40 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; LucyT; little jeremiah; Brown Deer; Las Vegas Ron; manc; Candor7

Since she shows no sign of stretch marks, i’m assuming they were taken at the earlier time.

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After I finished laughing at this remark(sorry, not trying to be mean, but it was very comical), I decided to let you in on something. Not all women get stretch marks when they are pregnant. It has to do with genetics and weight gained or both. We have 3 children. None of them were small babies and my wife didn’t get a single stretch mark with the first 2. With the third, she got one on the side of her hip that ran toward her stomach but never reached it. All of kids were over 8# and her stomach doesn’t have and never did have a single stretch mark on it, none on her thighs or tush either.


369 posted on 03/05/2012 4:39:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe; DiogenesLamp

DIOGENES...

The image you provided, supposedly of a little Stanley Ann Dunham, for which you didn’t bother to site a source, came from THREE STOOGES GO TO WASHINGTON:

http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Printable_Articles/Entries/2008/12/18_The_Three_Stooges_go_to_Washington%2C_Part_5_Barack_Obama__New_Revelations%2C_Same_Ol_Dirt.html

And I’ve got news for you, that girl fourth from the right in the back row isn’t who Nicoloff says she is, and he also misidentifies Madelyn and Stanley Armour Dunham on the same page.
I didn’t bother to look to see it it’s still there, but he also has a segment which showed that zero WAS A REPTILLIAN...so I’m telling you, if that’s where you get your material, I’m through with you, period.


370 posted on 03/05/2012 4:53:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: mojitojoe

WHERE DID HER CHIN GO? THAT IS NOT THE SAME GIRL.

371 posted on 03/05/2012 5:01:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Coup d’état


372 posted on 03/05/2012 5:04:43 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Fred Nerks; DiogenesLamp

LOL!!! NO AND HELL no that’s not the same girl. NO WAY! and I don’t care who says it is. It’s BS!


373 posted on 03/05/2012 5:10:45 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe; LucyT

Yes. Exquisitely well planned over a long period and generously funded. I believe it began when zero met the terrorist and his wife in the early eighties...around the time that William Ayres’ mother introduced zero as a foreign student, and the mailman reported meeting him in the street - when zero told him he was visiting the Ayres’ house to thank them for their help with his education.

http://02ce1ab.netsolhost.com/KingHarvest/?p=1245

excerpt:

Mr. Hulton recalls that he probably asked what Mr. Obama was studying in school and at one point Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States. Mr. Hulton said he was “taken aback” by the statement but recalls that he did not think Mr. Obama was “arrogant, but just self assured and a person with a lot of self confidence.” “It was not said with hubris,” Hulton recalled, “but with an air of self-assuredness.”


It’s a huge pity that when TOM FIFE joined FR and posted his story, very few understood what it was all about:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2122714/posts

Excerpt:

“Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call “Ivy League”. You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your President.”


FROM 1992. WHEN THE MYTH OF DREAMS WAS WELL IN PLACE.


374 posted on 03/05/2012 5:25:45 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp; LucyT; Fred Nerks

No doubt. Barack Obama sr. tried to use Barry in the same way. To fight deportation. (Barack sr. was only in the country because he lied on his Visa application. US Law at the time barred entry to anyone who associated with Communists or Polygamists.
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So Stanley Anne and Sr. go to Kenya, bring back a black baby, say it’s theirs, thinking then Sr. can stay in the US but it doesn’t work. She’s stuck with the kid, Sr. takes off for greener pastures and she marries Lolo and takes the kid to Indonesia. He’s a pain in the a$$, he’s not her kid, when FMD got his divorce and his wife moved out, she brings him back and dumps him on her parents and FMD agrees to help? But there is the Lolo adoption issue so Sr. is paid to come back for a week and clear that up? Is that what you are getting at?


375 posted on 03/05/2012 5:37:09 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: rodguy911

It’s got to be his sister’s or Gramps because he couldn’t get rid of Granny fast enough.


376 posted on 03/05/2012 5:38:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe

You are going to give Nicoloff a run for his reputation, if you keep that up.


377 posted on 03/05/2012 5:46:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

LOL!


378 posted on 03/05/2012 5:55:51 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Okay, that print was too small for me to read. Thank you for pointing it out. I’m not sure it’s the only possibility, though. BTW, why doesn’t Barack’s name appear on the earlier passport application?


379 posted on 03/05/2012 5:55:51 PM PST by x
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To: x

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2853228/posts?page=280#280

is this what you are looking for?


380 posted on 03/05/2012 6:07:20 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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