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To: LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...
Ping!

"VITAL RECORDS INDICATE OBAMA NOT BORN IN HAWAII HOSPITAL (PART 3)"

Also note in the comment section, the "MAN IN THE MIRROR" piece.

Interesting background!

2 posted on 03/13/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Is there proof Obama’s dad and mother were actually married?
Just asking.


3 posted on 03/13/2012 3:45:44 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: rxsid

Sounds like the jig is almost up.


5 posted on 03/13/2012 3:47:37 PM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: rxsid

While many, many American citizens believe that “O” is NOT natural born in the U.S. there is nothing they can do about it. Who do we expect to do exactly what about it right now???


8 posted on 03/13/2012 3:52:55 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: rxsid; onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; rodguy911; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; ...

WOW!!

And, this tid bit (from the above)

“MAN IN THE MIRROR

Not surprisingly, Barack Obama and I share biographical similarities. We were fostered in paradise, along with a younger sibling, by our white grandparents whose origins once resided in Midwest America before moving west with hope of a better life for our family.

Our American grandfathers served the United States as members of the military and we both had a close relationship with a maternal grandmother who passed away in 2008. We both claim a Christian faith, and we are both educated in professional fields attending college where we had occasion to write for the college newspaper.

We were both abandoned by our biological fathers who, at the time of our birth, both resided for some time in Hawaii. Then we were both paternally adopted.

We were both born to educated, though wayward mothers during their less than discretionary teen years of the 1960’s.

Both of our mothers moved to the Pacific Northwest soon after our birth and, later, became ill with incurable sickness as we entered into the endeavors of our professional lives.

I, too, was issued a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth after applying for the document based on Hawaiian law 338-17 which allowed me to gain natural-born American natal status despite my birth in Brisbane, Australia.

I am natural-born citizen of the United States because the laws of the state of Hawaii says I am, despite the fact that my natal origins are nowhere near American soil.

I could actually run for President, despite being born abroad, under the same circumstances Barack Obama was.”

Lord, keep folks turning over the rocks ..


9 posted on 03/13/2012 3:53:51 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: rxsid

Maybe someone addresses this already, but here goes:

If the HI DoH (Or vital records,etc) recorded births elsehwere according to the mother’s usual residence, why did he resort to a forgery? I can think of numerous reasons, but if (as seems to be stated on this excerpt, will read the linked article in a bit) the author is assuming that BHO is the son of the Kenyan and Stanley Ann, and was therefore born with the name BHO, why would there have been any need to fabricate a forgery?


20 posted on 03/13/2012 4:17:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: rxsid
Wow. Thanks for the Ping!

bfl.

46 posted on 03/13/2012 6:46:50 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: rxsid

The problem with this reasoning is that it doesn’t distinguish between what the State Health Departments did and what the CDC did. TABULATIONS were done by the CDC, and the requirements he talks about were in regards to TABULATIONS, not reporting on actual birth certificates. The standard 1961 birth certificate has a place to list the location of the birth and several questions to determine how to classify the mother’s residence. The residence questions were for the sake of the CDC’s TABULATIONS. Nowhere is it said that the Island/County of Birth field on the BC doesn’t mean the actual birth place. Both the birth place and the mother’s residence were supposed to be listed accurately - but the CDC based most of their tables on the mother’s place of residence rather than place of birth (as indicated by the headings for each table). The CDC COULD HAVE bases their tables on either one because both were supposed to be accurately reported in the appropriate place on the standard BC.

So when the CDC stuff talks about the location of birth being gradually used less, it’s talking about how the CDC TABULATED and reported the statistics, not what was actually reported on the BC’s they got the raw data from.

The same mistake was made in the first report in this series. It was assumed that the HDOH sorted out the BC’s by geographic code, but the 1961 Natality Report says that the CDC (not the state health departments) did all the CDC coding themselves, based on actual copies of the BC’s that they received from the health departments. The HDOH didn’t do any coding for the CDC in 1961. They just collected BC’s that had the information that the CDC wanted to be able to analyze.


65 posted on 03/13/2012 8:00:02 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: rxsid
The “(Stanley) Ann Dunham Obama” signature on the long form birth certificate: It does not look normal to me.

1. The more I look/study Obama's mother's signature on the long form birth certificate---especially when I look at an enlarged or zoomed in signature---the more I believe that the way it sits in that narrow space is just not normal.

2. For instance, the signature does not sit or touch the line.

3. Not only does it not sit on the line, but the very tiny space between the letters and the bottom line is unnaturally the same all along the line except for the "A" in "Ann."

4. NOTE: Look at the first “n” in “Ann” and then look at the “m” in “Obama”.

5. To me, the two letters are the same distance from the line even though the two letters are several letters apart: One is at the beginning of the signature, while the other one is at the end of the signature.

6. In my opinion, it would be humanly impossible for Obama’s mother---or anyone else for that matter----to write her name “Ann Dunham Obama” in that space and magically keep the pen from touching the line and also keep the space between the bottom of the letters and the line uniform throughout the length of the signature “Ann Dunham Obama.”

7. To accomplish the above---not touching the line and keeping the same distance between the letters and the line throughout the length of the signature---she would have had to possess one of the steadiest hands known to man in order for her to keep her pen steady as she wrote “Ann Dunham Obama” in that narrow space and, at the same time, avoid touching the line.

8. Other Documents: Compare Stanley's signature to her signatures on other documents, and you will see that she does what many of us do: She writes on the line and uses the line as a guide to write her name.

9. In fact, in a few instances in the other signatures, Stanley's signature goes below the line, which, in my opinion, is a natural thing to do when one writes his/her name in a narrow space on an application form of any kind.

10. Social Security application signature: In this signature, Stanley writes her name well in the center of the space, and she does not touch the bottom or top line in the space where an applicant writes his/her name; however, there is a lot of visible space between the bottom of the letters and the bottom line, a lot more space than the very tiny space between the bottom of the letters and the bottom line on the long form birth certificate that one can barely see with the naked eye until the signature is enlarged.

11. I tried this little experiment: I took writing paper with lines on it and carefully wrote "Stanley Ann Dunham" and my own name.

12. I purposely tried to avoid the bottom line on the space on the paper, and I succeeded, but, again, I was trying to avoid the line on purpose. On the other hand, I don’t think that Obama’s mother would have worried about not touching the line like I did if she truly signed the long form birth certificate.

13. However, in my experiment, the space between the line and the bottom of my letters was much greater than the very tiny space between the bottom of the letters and bottom line that we find on the long form birth certificate.

14. Also, the space between the letters and bottom line in my experiment was not as uniform as the space between the letters and the line of Obama’s mother’s signature.

15. Again, look at Stanley's other signatures that can be found on the internet: As far as I can tell, Stanley wrote on the lines and used the lines as a guide to write her name in the space, something that many of us normally do.

16 . Nordyke twins' mother's signature: Look at the mother's signature on the Nordyke twins birth certificate: You will see how the twins' mother wrote her name on the line, which is something that many of us would do.

17. Also look at the two signatures just below Obama's mother’s signature: I think they are “Dr. Sinclair” and the registrar.

18. Both of these signatures hug or sit on the line, because the persons did what many of us do: They used the line as a guide to help them write their names in the small space.

19. As I said earlier, I don't believe that it would have been humanly possible for Stanley---or anyone else---to write her name so close to the line without touching the line in several places, because in other samples of her signature on the internet, she touched the line when she signed her name, which is something many of us do when we sign documents.

20. Is the signature a fake? I say yes.

74 posted on 03/13/2012 8:53:06 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: rxsid
Thanks, interesting but sad to say I do not see it going anywhere since there are too many willing players in DC that are good at playing “chicken” with their constituents because they are politicians 1st who are in DC to prosper themselves rather than prospering the country by reducing the yokes placed upon us. No it is quite the opposite, they are more than happy to increase our burden for their own political & personal financial gain while a marxist muslim is in control of the nuclear button.
226 posted on 04/08/2012 6:54:10 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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