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Here's One Reason The Moon's Gravity Is So Important To The Military
Business insider ^ | 3/16/2012 | Eloise Lee

Posted on 03/17/2012 8:30:25 PM PDT by U-238

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1 posted on 03/17/2012 8:30:36 PM PDT by U-238
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To: U-238

That’s amazing.


2 posted on 03/17/2012 8:42:45 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: U-238

Tolerances in mechanical engineering means the space between two materials, such as between a bolt and a nut.

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Pure hilarity! Or is it nauseatingly pitiful? Whatever.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 8:47:27 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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Thanks U-238. The writer erred:
The moon causes the ground to shift by one to two millimeters every time it pulls the oceans' tides in and out.
No, the moon causes the ground to shift for the exact same reason it causes the oceans to shift.


4 posted on 03/17/2012 8:50:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: U-238

Utter nonsense. The temperature in the room makes more of a difference than the moon does. The heat transfer from your hands make a bigger difference.


5 posted on 03/17/2012 8:56:22 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: U-238

huh

Huh?????

Ok, so the ground shifts say 2mm at the nose of the plane, and 2mm at each wingtip, and 2mm at the tail of the plane.

So isn’t the plane in the same alignment as all of it is 2mm different???


6 posted on 03/17/2012 8:58:04 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: U-238

And another thing...”Tolerances in mechanical engineering means the space between two materials, such as between a bolt and a nut. “ If the nut and bolt are put together properly, there is no space in between at all. They should be completely touching.


7 posted on 03/17/2012 8:58:58 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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I find it kind of worrying.
The Germans had designs in WW2 that were technical marvels, and besieged by teething and reliability problems as consequence.
To what degree are we making the same mistake.
Fighters so expensive you can only afford a handful means they have to be spread thinner, and losses become even more dear.


8 posted on 03/17/2012 9:01:47 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: U-238

Frankly, I’d be more worried about this kind of thing:
http://defensetech.org/2007/02/27/that-deaf-dumb-and-blind-jet/


9 posted on 03/17/2012 9:08:09 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: irishtenor; SunkenCiv

Actually, there has to be a tiny, tiny space between the two. If not for that space, it would not be possible to put the bolt into the nut.

Also, about the tides, one of the reasons for the movement of the ground is the direct pull of the Moon’s gravity. The other is due to the shifting of the weight of the water mass on the land bearing it, due to the tides.


10 posted on 03/17/2012 9:10:17 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: U-238

Amazing! I would have never thought about that.


11 posted on 03/17/2012 9:12:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: James C. Bennett

My bad... Whatever the nut and bolt are holding together should have no gap. If they are installed properly.


12 posted on 03/17/2012 9:14:09 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: irishtenor
They should be completely touching.

not true at all...if the fit was with no space at all, you wouldn't be able to put them together. In a common nut and bolt combination, with acceptable normal tolerances, you can actually move the nut up and down on the bolt just a tiny bit.....you can also put them together manually...no tools required!!!!

13 posted on 03/17/2012 9:19:04 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: SunkenCiv; KevinDavis

Ping


14 posted on 03/17/2012 9:21:45 PM PDT by U-238
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To: U-238

It sounds rather silly that a combat aircraft will be more sensitive to tidal gravity than, say, a fragile edifice like the Crystal Cathedral.


15 posted on 03/17/2012 9:22:46 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: irishtenor
Utter nonsense I'm inclined to agree with you. I would reckon the tidal effects over the length of the airframe to be about on part in 10^15.
16 posted on 03/17/2012 9:33:54 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Jihad" is Arabic for "Helter-Skelter", "bin Laden" is Arabic for "Manson".)
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To: terycarl

Read my post 12.


17 posted on 03/17/2012 9:35:42 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Gunslingr3
I find it kind of worrying.
The Germans had designs in WW2 that were technical marvels, and besieged by teething and reliability problems as consequence.
To what degree are we making the same mistake. Fighters so expensive you can only afford a handful means they have to be spread thinner, and losses become even more dear.


True, the Germans made remarkable stuff ahead of its time but there was no time to work out the teething problems to say the least plus the complexity and cost was so bad, they could only make so many. We and the Soviets on the other hand decided to "Zerg Rush" the Germans where you had 4 or 5 Shermans/T-34's to each King Tiger. As Stalin said, there is a certain quality in quantity."
18 posted on 03/17/2012 9:41:10 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: Gunslingr3
The same lesson we should take away from the AK-47 reliability in the field. It was a 5 MOA rifle. Not exceptionally accurate, but very rugged. Operating reliably in spite of loose tolerances.Our M16/M4 actions have pretty close tolerances. They require frequenct cleaning and the correct lubrication for the environment. The CLP that was OK at home was a disaster in the powder fine sand of Kuwait/Iraq. A dry lubricant was required to avoid a gummy mix of the oily CLP and powdery sand.
19 posted on 03/17/2012 9:46:57 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: U-238

The writer must be scientifically illiterate. The vertical amplitude of earth tides can be as much as 15 inches. And yes, ocean tides do load the edges of the land masses to a very small but measurable degree.


20 posted on 03/17/2012 9:53:34 PM PDT by Poincare (Reality is not a fool.)
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