Posted on 03/23/2012 10:58:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
SOOOO...Does Barry only know what he’s been told?
Being DA.
So much evidence mounting against BO. Pretty soon it will be too much to ignore. This latest bit is unbelievable.
While Arpaio is doing “Joe Friday” (Just the facts, Ma'am) and claiming that he is not accusing Barry at this time, it is pretty obvious that Barry has colluded in the orchestration of a criminal cover-up of his true birth location and the forgery of his identity documents.
It includes significant cover up by the military, judges, and press of a false conviction. The movie shows the judges refusal to enter into evidence anything of value to the defendant (like birthers) It was a real and dividing part of French history, not unlike what we are going through in the US today. One writer was instrumental in getting the truth out by publishing his accusations and being sued for libel. He lost but eventually won.
Anyone who looks into it will realize that yes, there can be unthinkable conspiracies by persons in power to prevent the truth from coming out. It snowballed and they got deeper and deeper into covering up an original falsehood.
I accuse the US Government (through some of its employees), Congress and the Media of either aiding and abetting the cover up of Obamas records or of being ridiculously incompetent, negligent, or just plain cowards for doing as they are told, turning a blind eye or doing nothing to clear up the controversy.
When is the last time the Media, Congress or Investigators with authority asked President Obama about his birth certificate(other than brave Sheriff Arpaio) his social security card, his draft registration, etc? Or have they? The non action indicates to me a silent conspiracy along with a real one.
Is it not evident that the big media refuses to cover the story and refuses to ask the President pertinent questions? Is that not a conspiracy to suppress evidence and information?
Hope this finds its way to Sheriff Joe.
Barry would not be a “Minor v. Happersett NBC” but only if MvH is upheld as applied to the facts and circumstances of Barry's birth.
Note that Barry's legal team have now moved way beyond MvH, WKA and Ankeny to the new standard articulated in Marguet v. Pillado (9th Cir. 2011) which says that Barry would be NBC regardless of where he was born on the planet as long as he is biologically related to a US citizen at birth.
See my FR vanity thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2857598/posts?q=1&;page=101
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Edge919 already addressed part of your question and I can address part of the other.
I have a younger brother born in the Azores islands while my USAF dad was stationed there in the late ‘50’s. On our return to the USA, and enroute to his next duty station in NM, my parents (although my father was natural born, my mother was an immigrant citizen (making me not a natural born citizen since she became one three years after I was born)) had to stop at a US Consulate in Texas to have his (my brother’s) citizenship naturalized. Until the process was complete he was an alien citizen with the papers that went along with it. After the process completed he became a NATURALIZED US citizen, and only a NUSC.
The key question is, did the mother in this record actually complete the process? If the mother was like some anti-US types, she could have flaunted the process and, on arrival home, just said her child was born on the way home. After all, if her child was a new-born (even recently born can fool some folk) she could say it was born on the way HOME when she arrived at her destination.
So, he really was "The One" after all?
But if he were born in Kenya with a Kenyan father, surely he wouldn't be eligible for an automatic certificate of US citizenship.
If he were born overseas wouldn't he have to have two US citizen parents to be considered a US citizen from birth?
At any rate, there was probably at least one American couple living in Kenya whose child would more likely qualify as the "1" than Obama.
Dr. Edwin Vieira
An article: - http://www.wnd.com/2011/07/321969/
There is no question that the government is fully capable of committing crimes and doing so for a variety of motivations. It seems to me that we would have to inquire what the motivations of the officials of Hawaii to further such a conspiracy might be. Certainly they would not be directly advanced politically nor would they be directly advanced financially in any way that is now known to us. They might, however, be subject to downside pressures on their jobs and associations. Most likely, their motivation, if it exists, would be a desire to support the first black president because they too are people of color mutually supporting each other in a very diverse state.
Yet, at some point we have to have actual evidence. We have to confirm it, that is prove, as an absolutely indispensable first step that the last certificate is in fact a counterfeit. If that is done I think a conspiracy would disintegrate because it will be exposed to the light of intense public scrutiny.
Recent history demonstrates with absolute clarity that this matter will only be moved forward by the presentation of the most compelling hard evidence. The resistance in the media, indeed the resistance on the part of Republican politicians, will only be overcome by hard evidence. I am mindful of Watergate in which the defense infrastructure which protected Nixon only came to an end with the revelations in the tapes. Even DNA proving perjury was not enough to get rid of Clinton.
How much more will it take to get rid of the historic first African-American president. Therefore, all of this talk about conspiracy and the document that was presented today showing some Kenyan came to America at a critical time, does not advance the matter toward a political solution very far at all. Equally, the courts are reluctant to touch this because they are wary of intruding into "political" questions so they dodge the matter by finding there is no standing.
Both the political and the legal frustrations will continue until hard evidence is produced and all the speculation about conspiracy theories will avail nothing.
Would the subsequent paperwork be automatic or would it require input from Obama' s mother to move the matter along. I tend to agree with your belief that she probably did not move the matter along, preferring instead to make an end run through Hawaii system not just for political reasons but because it was easier, cheaper, and quicker.Further, as I understand it,Barack Obama would not have been automatically entitled to citizenship so the Hawaii option would have been even more attractive.
As I understand it, according to today's revelation, Obama would have entered the country in Massachusetts and one would expect that at that airport some sort of paperwork would have been generated. What kind? In the normal course, what would've happened to it? If the files have been laundered by Obama's agents, would they know enough to go after this document?
I further assume that the provisional document generated in Massachusetts probably was not placed into the Hawaiian archive. My guess is that the grandparents generated a certificate of live birth on their own affidavit or application.
Does this make sense from your personal knowledge?
If a conspiracy occurred, it was 50 years ago when Obama's grandmother used her influence to get his vital records admitted. At the time, it would have been a minor event lost among the routine mundane affairs of a local bureaucracy. To those in the future who look back at it, it would appear at first glance to be in order. To those in the past, it would have been like fixing a parking ticket, nothing to brag about and easy to forget or minimize in thought.
Any conspiracy in the current would be from those who are familiar with the bureaucracy and the normal state of documents in the entirety, and who can then recognize anomolies such as the absence of related documents that should also be present. Theirs is a passive consipiracy, as they were not a part of the falsification of records, but they are silent about inconsistencies found in the records.
-PJ
More like McCain's "That one!"
-PJ
Thanks RS.
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