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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; LS; BillyBoy; cripplecreek; Ben Barrack; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs

I think that “winning by losing” is just a way for losers to look for a silver lining. Hindsight’s 20/20, and we can say “Carter’s 1976 victory led to Reagan’s two terms” only because they happened, not because they were certain, or even likely, to happen.

And let’s look at how a RAT president winning a second term have “helped us.” Clinton winning reelection in 1996 actually resulted in GOP House and Senate losses in 1998, and we got slaughtered in the 2000 Senate races (and almost didn’t take the presidency back). And had Carter won reelection in 1980, not only would we not have taken back the Senate that year, but Carter would have named the likes of Judge Reinhold and Mario Cuomo to SCOTUS. And when LBJ won JFK’s second term, he swept in huge RAT majorities, and it would be 16 years before we would take back the Senate (we had lost it only 8 years earlier) and 30 years before we took back the House (which we had lost only 10 years before).

So I’d rather win the 2012 presidential elections, even if it helps a few Senate Democrats marginally in 2014.


72 posted on 03/31/2012 10:06:29 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; LS; BillyBoy; cripplecreek; Ben Barrack; ...

I did not vote for McCain....he is a head case.
Romney might move to the right, for purely Machiavellian reasons. Obama will just destroy the U.S. financial system, put us 20-24 TRILLION in debt, embolden our enemies, and possibly SCOTUS. There are no good choices here, just degrees of evil. But based upon what Obama has done to us thus far, there would be nothing left. Pray(not prey) for Joe Arpaio.


74 posted on 03/31/2012 10:17:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; ...
RE :”So I’d rather win the 2012 presidential elections, even if it helps a few Senate Democrats marginally in 2014.

When you say ‘I’ you obviously mean ‘A Republican candidate’
It is very difficult for me to identify myself as a Republican. I don't automatically consider it MY winning just because a Republican won.

The last few years of GWB POTUS did that in for me. But the past 15 months I notice the Republican party seems to have a deep wish to lose.

The RNC shoots itself in the mouth

90 posted on 03/31/2012 8:16:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: AuH2ORepublican
likes of Judge Reinhold and Mario Cuomo to SCOTUS.

Billy from Beverly Hills Cop? I think you mean Stephen Reinhardt.

I do agree, although it's going to really pain me this November barring a shocker.

173 posted on 04/03/2012 12:57:20 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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