Posted on 04/01/2012 3:14:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
THANK you for the excellent examples. I realize we are a wealthy (and blessed) country. We throw away SO MUCH FOOD!
if I could bring up the standard of living of the rest of the world by 10 percent or 20 percent and see my own lowered by the same amount, I might be willing to be a progressive. It does not work like that (as proven by the "Big Black Book of Communism" -- more people have died in the attempt to bring about communist utopias than in ALL THE WARS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!). We are headed for trouble, big trouble. And those (on the conservative side or the more liberal) who think that revolution can be achieved peacefully are just fooling themselves.
Dear Aruanan,
The answer is quite obvious: GEORGE W. BUSH
;-)
The closest thing I can see is that Obama (and the globalists / Communists / whatevers behind him) are trying the classical techniques for undermining / subverting a society -- see also Antonia Gramsci and/or the famous 1963 Congressional Record article on the Communist Goals for America; or Paul Harvey's speech on what he'd do to destroy America if he were the devil.
I think there are a number of reasons for this.
1) The United States is steeped in freedom and individuality -- everything from the Declaration to the Constitution to the Bill of Rights to "Go West Young Man" has created a cultural memory with its own inertia, which is proving harder than expected to eradicate. More on this later. Whereas Europe's cultural history is full of feudalism, overlords, monarchies, dictatorships: the people have a cultural memory of being servile, and without social mobility.
2) Related to this, the United States has long been a Christian country: we fought a war to eliminate slavery. And Christianity focuses on the individual: Christ died for sinners, to *make* them worthy, not *because* of anyone's or any group's inherent superiority.
3) Putting these factors together, the left has been trying to eliminate the cultural memory of the U.S. ("Hey hey! Ho Ho! Western Culture's got to go!") and to dumb down the people (public schools were developed in Germany to make compliant serfs for the masters, and fit in well with the "Organization Man" meme of the post-World War II bureaucracies). And hand in hand with this has been the effort first to remove religion from the public square, then to make religion bad ("homophobia" or "anti-science" anyone?), and then to destroy the last bastion of resistance to tyranny, the family (birth control / abortion / welfare / hookup culture).
The thing is, it isn't working: or rather, it isn't working like clockwork as it has in other countries.
And so the Gramsci-ites and others are working on other time-tested techniques: Cloward-Piven (put enough financial strain on the system that it will collapse), dependency, class warfare. The idea is twofold: one, if the great middle class is in the way, get rid of them by pressure from without (outsourcing / taxes / regulation to stop entrepreneurs) and by subversion: encourage unhealthy personal and societal habits in order to foster near-universal dependence on government.
So instead of dividing the underclasses *geographically* as in the movie (although to some extent this happens with the Rust Belt and/or the South being full of "bitter clingers"), people are divided along class lines.
And as in Animal Farm where the puppies were raised to be attack dogs, so the underclasses are being groomed via Race Hatred and the Occupy Movement to attack the Middle Class, the elites hope to pit the non-elites among one another, fighting for the scraps.
But two things are happening, that the conspirators haven't counted on. One, is that all their toxic results are hitting the lower classes; two, the more educated youth, having been inculcated with a sense of entitlement, are nonetheless left with a sense of *superiority* such that they will not deign to accept handouts: oh, no, they want a job commensurate with their perceived status.
And they remember that four short years ago, everyone HAD jobs. But now? They have awful debt, and NO job.
So who are they going to blame? Not themselves. The man at the top: the one who *PROMISED* change...not telling them it was change for the worse.
And the second, is that one has to time things VERY carefully. The Cloward-Piven is working so well, that not only are the underclasses running out of money; the lower echelons of the elites (the government functionaries, the apparatchiks, are threatened with losing their livelihoods as well.
And if both the lower classes and the middle classes become dispossessed at the same time -- someone just *might* get the idea that "Let's get the dirty bastards at the top!" will bring more *positive* change than fighting each other. It wasn't the Rust Belt Union Boys who came up with the idea of sending all the factories to China: it was MBA hot-shots doing the bidding of the top dogs. It wasn't the middle-aged white male programmers who came up with the H1B visa and having to train in their own replacements: it was the elites. And it wasn't the working-class blacks who came up with the idea of de facto amnesty for illegal aliens in order to lower costs by paying manual labor their wages under the table, and socializing the health care and other disruptions. Yup, it was the elites again.
And I fear that it was a grave mistake to try to keep power by resorting to the politics of personal destruction to keep Palin and Cain out of power: it simply acted to plug up a pressure cooker of political frustration...
Cheers!
The “smart” people. Socialists created them and now embraced them as supeior rulers. It figues given their politically correct (re)education which ensures compliance of thought and behavior amongst their national and international equals.
The added element of delusional superiorty over the politically incorrect riff raff, is a given. They are too arragant and stupid to be ashamed of themselves. They might end up losing their pretty heads.
I haven’t read the books, but my husband and I saw the film last night. I didn’t go with terribly high expectations, but I thought it was an arresting film with some very nice artistic touches, particularly during the flashback scenes. I just felt it started lagging in the last 30 minutes, with the repetitive romantic scenes. One of two would have sufficed, but that’s a minor point-—it still kept my attention until the credits.
Wow, freeking fantastic analysis! Well done!
You've pissed me off plenty of times, but I sincerely doff me hat to you for this one, good sir.
I'm saving your missive for future reference.
The romantic scenes actually have a point to them. The contestants must get sponsors who will buy items that they need to survive and possibly win the games. Haymitch, the mentor for Katniss and Peeta, knows this and tells them to play up the “romantic angle.” Katniss has no real interest in doing so, perhaps this is more evident in the books; however she comes to realize the need to “market” herself and Peeta. The ointment and soup both came from sponsors who took a liking to the 2 contestants from District 12.
Remember what Cinna said: “You have to sell yourselves.” or words to that affect, perhaps it was “Make the crowd like you.” Read at least the first book in the trilogy.
The romantic scenes actually have a point to them. The contestants must get sponsors who will buy items that they need to survive and possibly win the games. Haymitch, the mentor for Katniss and Peeta, knows this and tells them to play up the “romantic angle.” Katniss has no real interest in doing so, perhaps this is more evident in the books; however she comes to realize the need to “market” herself and Peeta. The ointment and soup both came from sponsors who took a liking to the 2 contestants from District 12.
Remember what Cinna said: “You have to sell yourselves.” or words to that affect, perhaps it was “Make the crowd like you.” Read at least the first book in the trilogy.
"And the second, is that one has to time things VERY carefully. The Cloward-Piven is working so well, that not only are the underclasses running out of money; the lower echelons of the elites (the government functionaries, the apparatchiks, are threatened with losing their livelihoods as well."
Thanks, that was fascinating, helpful, uplifting... in short, as expected.
Oh, the romance is not a minor point. It is forced, and it is there for other than its own sake.
Remember, this is a trilogy.
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