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Just In Time: When the Trucks Stop, America Will Stop
SHTF Plan.com ^ | 4/2/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 04/02/2012 5:45:41 PM PDT by Kartographer

A report prepared for legislators and business leaders by the American Trucking Associations highlights just how critical our just-in-time inventory and delivery systems are, and assesses the impact on the general population in the event of an emergency or incident of national significance that disrupts the truck transportation systems which are responsible for carrying some ten billion tons of commodities and supplies across the United States each year.

A shut down of truck operations as a result of elevated threat levels, terrorist attacks, or pandemics would, according to the report, have “a swift and devastating impact on the food, healthcare, transportation, waste removal, retail, manufacturing, and financial sectors.”

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; economy; preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; shtfplan; survivalping
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Significant shortages will occur in as little as three days, especially for perishable items following a national emergency and a ban on truck traffic. Consumer fear and panic will exacerbate shortages. News of a truck stoppage—whether on the local level, state or regional level, or nationwide—will spur hoarding and drastic increases in consumer purchases of essential goods. Shortages will materialize quickly and could lead to civil unrest. (We’re seeing this in the UK right now)

1 posted on 04/02/2012 5:45:52 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 04/02/2012 5:47:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I suspect it will be a lot quicker than 3 days. The small grocery store near me probably has 20,000 living within 10 miles of it.


3 posted on 04/02/2012 5:51:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kartographer

Is the media finally starting to catch up and catch on? ... We will see what we see when we see what we see ...


4 posted on 04/02/2012 5:52:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Kartographer

Post the story on radiation while you’re at it. :)


5 posted on 04/02/2012 5:52:10 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Kartographer
I'm not sure it's a good thing to bring this to the politicians attention. Next thing you know they will be federalizing the trucking industry.
6 posted on 04/02/2012 5:54:06 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Errant

I don’t need the headache! Too many here on FR think that Fukushima is no more dangerous than the radiation in your smoke detector or from an old radium watch.


7 posted on 04/02/2012 6:04:58 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

The Ballad of K.C. River Rat, 1973, about halfway down. http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/national-lampoon?before=1330796260


8 posted on 04/02/2012 6:06:29 PM PDT by irgbar-man (had to sell my good tagline for food)
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To: Kartographer

LOL! My thoughts exactly...


9 posted on 04/02/2012 6:08:18 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

And global warming. And the derivative markets going under. Obama winning a second term? Get it all out.


10 posted on 04/02/2012 6:08:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Kartographer

There is nothing new or surprising in this post and its supporting articles.

I have lived in Florida since 1949 and have ridden out many hurricanes. As a result, I have a hurricane preparation checklist that I run every May just as the local governments and military bases have their hurricane exercise.

My personal checklist assumes no outside deliveries of anything for 3 to 7 days. It also assumes that the electrical grid goes down for at least a week. While I know my plans are for just a week to 10 days and represent only a fraction of what I could (will?) see in a larger systemic collapse at least I have an idea.

Want to see what happens when there is systemic no prior planning to prevent pi** poor performance? Look no farther than New Orleans and Hurricane Katerina. Then multiply it by two to four orders of magnitude (times 100 to 10,00 times).


11 posted on 04/02/2012 6:11:31 PM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: Secret Agent Man
And global warming.

Now that you mentioned it, there may actually be some "global warming" occuring. But not for the reasons the globalist claim, but much, much deeper ( at the bottom of the seas )...

12 posted on 04/02/2012 6:15:33 PM PDT by Errant
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To: 2111USMC

Too late! The report was prepared for politicians. Read again, “A report prepared for legislators...” This is clearly a report to justify some draconian law that will be foisted on us soon.


13 posted on 04/02/2012 6:27:41 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: Kartographer
Consumer fear and panic will exacerbate shortages.

The last place you want to be during a pandemic.
14 posted on 04/02/2012 6:29:43 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: cripplecreek

I use Florida hurricanes as an example. It takes a day to empty out the stores.


15 posted on 04/02/2012 6:30:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JimWayne

Yes, I did read that. Hence my comment.


16 posted on 04/02/2012 6:30:57 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Kartographer
Have you seen this recent post by James Rawlings? It's thought provoking.

Letter Re: Prospects for the Eastern U.S. in a Societal Collapse

17 posted on 04/02/2012 6:32:03 PM PDT by Errant
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To: driftdiver

There are much larger stores like Walmart in town but I don’t want any part of those places in a panic.


18 posted on 04/02/2012 6:36:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Marc Faber Predicts 'Massive Wealth Destruction' Through Hyperinflation, Social Unrest, Credit Collapse, Or War
19 posted on 04/02/2012 6:42:52 PM PDT by blam
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To: cripplecreek
During Rita, had the opportunity to do a bit of shopping at the local Walmart after it had reopened. Walmart had armed guards at the store and we had to enter through a side door. When finished with our shopping, we went out the front door as long lines of others waiting were told that there was nothing left to buy in the store.

The looks we got while wheeling our buggies to our vehicles was pretty unnerving - good thing the guards where there!

20 posted on 04/02/2012 6:46:46 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

From your link...

“In the absence of grid power, only after the population has dropped to a reasonable carrying capacity will there be any chance of a recovery and a return to law and order.”


21 posted on 04/02/2012 6:55:48 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Errant

I think 80% of the East Coast will kill each other within 3months. Getting ready myself


22 posted on 04/02/2012 6:56:22 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: Uncle Ike; MattinNJ
He estimates it would take 18 - 24 months for that kind of population drop.
23 posted on 04/02/2012 7:08:49 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

James Burke in “Connections” described what would happen if the Grid went out over 30 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6H-w9Rm46o


24 posted on 04/02/2012 7:12:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Errant

That’s a long time to bunker-in, with no guarantee that you’ll emerge into a ‘civilization’ you can live with...

I took the author’s advice about 5 years ago (approximately 5 years before I’d even heard of the author) and moved to an isolated rural community in the West....


25 posted on 04/02/2012 7:16:09 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: dfwgator

Connections and The Day The Universe Changed were excellent programs.


26 posted on 04/02/2012 7:28:29 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Kartographer

I’m good on prescription drugs. I’ve been building up a supply by refilling as early as possible (i.e., every 23 days rather than 30 days), and sometimes ‘forgetting’ to take my meds (not the end of the world for me).

In the end, I’m up to 2 years of supply - and hope to get one more year. After that, I’d have to start worrying about shelf life.

Anyone why thinks that the supply of drugs to pharmacies is assured is INSANE.


27 posted on 04/02/2012 7:33:52 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Uncle Ike
moved to an isolated rural community in the West....

So how's it working out? I've got a rural farm about 30 miles from a small city also west of the Mississippi but thinking of moving to a region deeper into the bible belt or more remote.

I suppose like most, I suffer from normalcy bias. I also have roots here that go back many generations but things have changed and this is not the place to be if the SHTF.

I actually live a few miles from the city (one of the highest small cities for violent crime in the nation) close to a Walmart and not on the farm. If it hits the fan, the fight will be here in a matter of hours. I expect the farm will only offer a few extra days of safety until it will be overrun as well.

There are a couple of excellent novels concerning grid down. One is "One Second After" if you haven't already read it.

28 posted on 04/02/2012 7:40:12 PM PDT by Errant
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To: dfwgator

For sure it’s something we never want to experience for an extended period of time in the US, with all the people we have who know nothing about living off the grid.


29 posted on 04/02/2012 7:53:00 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Kartographer

I’ve said before I can lock my door and not be seen outside for a year and have everything I need. I keep a low profile.

I don’t think there is much time left to prepare.


30 posted on 04/02/2012 8:47:11 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Kartographer

Just in time inventory was one of the main factors that started me prepping years ago.

To think that something as simple as trucks stopped for any reason, could shut down all the supermarkets in one area.. is just scary.


31 posted on 04/02/2012 8:48:57 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Errant

The stuff I’m reading is that the spent fuel rod pool at reactor four is pretty much crumbling.

They are already detecting radioactive cesium in Northern Pacific salmon. That means if you like tuna BUY IT TODAY!!

If that fuel rod pool goes, and the expected reaction happens, you have maybe six months before all food production worldwide has at least some radiation in it.
And by “some” I mean radiation far higher than normal background levels.


32 posted on 04/02/2012 9:12:30 PM PDT by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Kartographer

I’ve noticed here in SoCal that there are many big new mosques right next to freeway interchanges. Food for thought.


33 posted on 04/02/2012 9:35:15 PM PDT by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: djf
All of my current efforts are geared toward long term food storage (2+ years). I also plan to store several yards of top soil under a protective cover, just in case...

Good advice on the tuna/etc. Now is also a good time to pick up a radiation detector that can read low levels of radiation, while the prices have come down some. There will likely come a point when you want to double check some of the food you're buying at the grocery for unsafe levels of radiation.

Link to the article discussed above:

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-radiation-warnings-you-wont-get-from-the-mainstream-propaganda-machine_04022012

34 posted on 04/02/2012 9:42:19 PM PDT by Errant
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To: djf

A source, please?


35 posted on 04/02/2012 11:25:03 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

I don’t keep track of every website I read.

jeesh...

Google salmon cesium


36 posted on 04/02/2012 11:29:38 PM PDT by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Errant; djf
“...Radiation from the Fukushima Nuclear Plant disaster in Japan is now actively in the ecosystem all along the North American west coast… even the sea weed is now radiated...”

This sentence is crapola. I worked in the nuclear industry and live in southwest Washington State. Furthermore, I love to eat oysters from Willapa Bay, and will keep doing so.

I suggest you look up the word “radiation”. There is NO WAY “radiation” can be active in the ecosystem along the North American west coast. There is NO WAY the seaweed is now radiated.

Do you believe everything you read? The above is meant to frighten and alarm people unnecessarily. It is the hallmark of greenies and radical wacky environmentalists who want to destroy capitalism.

A radioactive element, like plutonium or uranium, is considered unstable because it throws off subatomic particles. These unstable elements are referred to as “radioactive”, and the thrown off subatomic particles are called “radiation”.

A radioactive source can be used to irradiate food, which kills bacteria. However the food itself does not become radioactive or generate radiation.

A good analogy is a pile of bull manure. The bull manure is likened to radioactive elements as it emits radiation in the form of stench.

There are three things that lessen exposure to radiation from a source like Fukushima: time, distance, and shielding. Over time, radioactive elements decay and eventually become inert. The further you are located from a radioactive source, the less exposure you will experience. Lastly, the more shielding between you and the source, such as concrete or water, the less exposure you will endure.

I realize there are radioactive particles loose in the Pacific Ocean. But Fukushima is like a tiny drop of hot radioactive material in a humongous volume of water. It is difficult to measure much less isolate.

Beware the sensationalism, fellow Freepers.

37 posted on 04/03/2012 12:02:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: Kartographer

I think Obama should nominate former mayor, Ray Naggin, to be chief of FEMA. You want to see trucks and buses stopped? Well do ya, punk? Then Ray’s your guy.


38 posted on 04/03/2012 5:51:45 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Kartographer

BTTT


39 posted on 04/03/2012 6:34:20 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: SatinDoll; djf
This sentence is crapola.

It and other statements in the article seemed alarmist and inaccurate. It's the reason I and perhaps djf didn't feel it should be posted as a main topic of discussion. I do think the claims deserve to be examined more closely due to their serious nature.

That said, I'm afraid your knowledge of radiation dangers needs improving. You should do a little more reading about the differences between "radiated" food and "contaminated" foods and how to prevent/avoid contaminated foods.

You might also want to review the half lives of some these radioactive isotopes that get created. Many will be around long after your particular DNA sequence has vanished from the face of the Earth. For some reason, Darwin comes to mind.

Furthermore, since you claim to know a lot about the ecosystem along the North American west coast, perhaps you could update me on the seals supposidly found with radiation poisoning along Alaska's coast? I've not seen a report since tissue samples were sent for testing.

Thanks much,

:)

40 posted on 04/03/2012 6:57:19 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
From your link to James Rawlings - In the event of a grid-down collapse, you might have to hunker down in a blacked-out house on a property with spring water or a shallow well for 18 to 24 months. This will necessitate living with absolutely no outside contact or resupply. Unless you have the requisite deep larder and a big wood (or coal) pile, then you are likely to become a statistic. Why 18 to 24 months? I predict that it will take two winters for your neighbors to eat up all the food in their pantries, then the local livestock and wild game, then their pets, and then perhaps even each other.

Sorry, but I don't agree with him on this. A blacked out house isn't so blacked out with smoke from a wood fire billowing up. I also suspect it would take a matter of weeks rather than his 2 years for most to eat through their pantries and most won't have a clue about wild game. Puleez, can you see some killing their precious darling pets??? No way. I've looked on liberal sites and by and large they had rather die than protect or provide for their children. Also, I wish he wouldn't keep telling people to go west. The west is filling up too quickly as it is.

41 posted on 04/03/2012 8:36:20 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SatinDoll; TigerLikesRooster

TigerLikesRooster is good about keeping FR up to date on the Fukushima crisis. Do a search for his posts.


42 posted on 04/03/2012 8:48:55 AM PDT by bgill
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To: cripplecreek

The one grocery here always has empty shelves. They play games with the chain’s weekly ads claiming the item didn’t make it in on the truck. “The truck” is their go to blame. Of course, when you demand something or ask for them to go to the back, it magically appears. If they’re this bad now, imagine what it’d be like when it does hit the fan. Because of their little games, I wonder how many customers have wised up and started stocking so they do have enough on hand to stay ahead of “the truck”? I’ve been waiting for them to put tuna on sale for Easter. They haven’t done it the last 5 years so I’m not holding my breath. Not that “the truck” would make it.


43 posted on 04/03/2012 9:00:04 AM PDT by bgill
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bttt


44 posted on 04/03/2012 11:44:35 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

What is the best, most economical way to store rice and beans?


45 posted on 04/03/2012 12:13:02 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Kartographer

What is the best, most economical way to store rice and beans?

(talking fairly large amounts...like 25/40 lb. sacks)


46 posted on 04/03/2012 12:13:58 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

A couple good links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAMjmgobjQ

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-kitchen/rice-and-beans-a-survival-combination/

Alsocovered in my Preparedness Manual that you can download for FREE at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf


47 posted on 04/03/2012 12:22:07 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thank you so much for this.


48 posted on 04/04/2012 3:24:00 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: cripplecreek
I suspect it will be a lot quicker than 3 days.

remember that blackout that occured about 7 years ago that affected most of the north east coast for several days? I don't think it affected you but it did us here in S.E. Michigan. It took me 4 hours to get home that day because all the street lights were out. By the next afternoon, the local supermarkets such as Meijers and Kroger were out of all non perishable essential foods, water and beverages.

That was a really strange time. There is an 8 lane highway about a half mile away that was dark and devoid of traffic and eerily silent once the sun went down.

49 posted on 04/04/2012 3:34:53 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: bgill
Sorry, but I don't agree with him on this. A blacked out house isn't so...

I'd hate having to ride out a "die-off" in a "blacked out" house. I think maybe he was using that scenario to get folks to seriously consider moving to a location away from population centers and around like minded folks.

Seems like to me, that it wouldn't be long before you would wind up at the table of some gold tooth warlord as the main course.

For some people, it should be possible to go literally underground near large cities or population centers. The Vietcong were pretty good at hiding in tunnels under our noses. I remember stories of Japanese soldiers hiding out for years on American occupied islands after the war. For most though, it isn't an option.

IMO, the best bet would be for constitutional leaning folks to relocate to areas of the country that would offer a sustainable existence, defense and safety in numbers. Kinda like what Mr. Rawlings suggests...

I believe a certain Russian professor predicted just such a breakup of the US.

50 posted on 04/04/2012 9:01:10 AM PDT by Errant
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