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Just In Time: When the Trucks Stop, America Will Stop
SHTF Plan.com ^ | 4/2/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 04/02/2012 5:45:41 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Errant
From your link to James Rawlings - In the event of a grid-down collapse, you might have to hunker down in a blacked-out house on a property with spring water or a shallow well for 18 to 24 months. This will necessitate living with absolutely no outside contact or resupply. Unless you have the requisite deep larder and a big wood (or coal) pile, then you are likely to become a statistic. Why 18 to 24 months? I predict that it will take two winters for your neighbors to eat up all the food in their pantries, then the local livestock and wild game, then their pets, and then perhaps even each other.

Sorry, but I don't agree with him on this. A blacked out house isn't so blacked out with smoke from a wood fire billowing up. I also suspect it would take a matter of weeks rather than his 2 years for most to eat through their pantries and most won't have a clue about wild game. Puleez, can you see some killing their precious darling pets??? No way. I've looked on liberal sites and by and large they had rather die than protect or provide for their children. Also, I wish he wouldn't keep telling people to go west. The west is filling up too quickly as it is.

41 posted on 04/03/2012 8:36:20 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SatinDoll; TigerLikesRooster

TigerLikesRooster is good about keeping FR up to date on the Fukushima crisis. Do a search for his posts.


42 posted on 04/03/2012 8:48:55 AM PDT by bgill
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To: cripplecreek

The one grocery here always has empty shelves. They play games with the chain’s weekly ads claiming the item didn’t make it in on the truck. “The truck” is their go to blame. Of course, when you demand something or ask for them to go to the back, it magically appears. If they’re this bad now, imagine what it’d be like when it does hit the fan. Because of their little games, I wonder how many customers have wised up and started stocking so they do have enough on hand to stay ahead of “the truck”? I’ve been waiting for them to put tuna on sale for Easter. They haven’t done it the last 5 years so I’m not holding my breath. Not that “the truck” would make it.


43 posted on 04/03/2012 9:00:04 AM PDT by bgill
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bttt


44 posted on 04/03/2012 11:44:35 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

What is the best, most economical way to store rice and beans?


45 posted on 04/03/2012 12:13:02 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Kartographer

What is the best, most economical way to store rice and beans?

(talking fairly large amounts...like 25/40 lb. sacks)


46 posted on 04/03/2012 12:13:58 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

A couple good links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAMjmgobjQ

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-kitchen/rice-and-beans-a-survival-combination/

Alsocovered in my Preparedness Manual that you can download for FREE at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf


47 posted on 04/03/2012 12:22:07 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thank you so much for this.


48 posted on 04/04/2012 3:24:00 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: cripplecreek
I suspect it will be a lot quicker than 3 days.

remember that blackout that occured about 7 years ago that affected most of the north east coast for several days? I don't think it affected you but it did us here in S.E. Michigan. It took me 4 hours to get home that day because all the street lights were out. By the next afternoon, the local supermarkets such as Meijers and Kroger were out of all non perishable essential foods, water and beverages.

That was a really strange time. There is an 8 lane highway about a half mile away that was dark and devoid of traffic and eerily silent once the sun went down.

49 posted on 04/04/2012 3:34:53 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: bgill
Sorry, but I don't agree with him on this. A blacked out house isn't so...

I'd hate having to ride out a "die-off" in a "blacked out" house. I think maybe he was using that scenario to get folks to seriously consider moving to a location away from population centers and around like minded folks.

Seems like to me, that it wouldn't be long before you would wind up at the table of some gold tooth warlord as the main course.

For some people, it should be possible to go literally underground near large cities or population centers. The Vietcong were pretty good at hiding in tunnels under our noses. I remember stories of Japanese soldiers hiding out for years on American occupied islands after the war. For most though, it isn't an option.

IMO, the best bet would be for constitutional leaning folks to relocate to areas of the country that would offer a sustainable existence, defense and safety in numbers. Kinda like what Mr. Rawlings suggests...

I believe a certain Russian professor predicted just such a breakup of the US.

50 posted on 04/04/2012 9:01:10 AM PDT by Errant
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To: djf; winoneforthegipper
The stuff I’m reading is that the spent fuel rod pool at reactor four is pretty much crumbling.

It’s Not Over: Government Plans for the Worst: Forced Evacuation of Tokyo

51 posted on 04/04/2012 9:05:44 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Quit all yur fear-mongering!

The experts tell us it’s no worse than having a chest x-ray...
with KRYPTONITE!!!

Not sure what part of the world you are in, but I will ping you if my G-counter picks up higher-than-normal background stuff...


52 posted on 04/04/2012 9:19:14 AM PDT by djf (Obama - the "OJ verdict" of presidents!!)
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To: Errant

Thanks for the ping...!

Oh yeah they got years of head scratchin to go over here.....just amazing.


53 posted on 04/04/2012 9:20:56 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: djf
I will ping you if my G-counter picks up higher-than-normal background stuff...

Please do! I've not yet purchased one of my own but getting serious about it.

Any recommendations?

54 posted on 04/04/2012 9:37:47 AM PDT by Errant
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To: SumProVita
What is the best, most economical way to store rice and beans?

Best and most economical aren't the same thing, but for easy and cheap 2 liter soda bottles work well. You may want to add a food grade desiccant pack for long term.

55 posted on 04/04/2012 10:09:59 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Kartographer

Bump for later reading.


56 posted on 04/05/2012 9:30:19 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SumProVita

However you go about storing, soon as you get your rice & beans in the house, freeze them for a couple of weeks in order to kill off the weavils that always come packaged with such. (Maybe pick out a few heary bean specimens first for seed, if you garden.) If you don’t do the freeze-kill first, your storage efforts will have been for naught, as a friend of mine learned the hard way.


57 posted on 04/07/2012 1:38:16 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

“hearty!” bean specimens. Geez...


58 posted on 04/07/2012 1:42:11 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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