Christians bringing Prestige to Pagan Religion of Mormonism

http://youtu.be/eE0OYoW0m60 ^ | Scott Ryan

[publius321]

Christians who support Romney in Primary are responsible for advancing a polytheistic pagan doctrine and leading potentially millions of souls to state of deception.

The God of Israel said He is the Alpha & the Omega, the beginning and the end. He said there is only ONE God.

Mormonism says there are infinite numbers of gods throughout the universe and THEY can be gods themselves, just like God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.

This is heresy. Mitt Romney is a heretic just as Barack Obama is a heretic Here's WHY (just scratching the surface).

[JudgemAll]

I am not voting Romney, I am voting for a strategy.

My speculation is that if Romney were to be elected and Obamanoid communists who would like to root out all illumitatis, Jews, mormons etc... not under their direct control savages them, then it is more points for conservatives and the realization that Christians are right along in being with the story of the true Jesus Who was persecuted.

I don’t know. I guess BushII was content with being persecuted by liberals, but that was him. They of course all suffer from a Stokholm syndrome and will invariably blame Christians and conservatives for the liberals raping them.

[JudgemAll]

Yeah, the mormons of late I know have been thoroughly brainwashed by their church as to accept gays. There is this Mormon guilt going on. I know a “former mormon” whereby he felt that all this discipline was so harsh on him, he left the church and became as a result a flaming homosexual.

Many Mormons I met were also extremely metro-femino-sexual, imo, and they had mutilation and suicidal problems. I just do not know what is going on in this church.

[jonrick46]

I responded earlier but my post failed when my internet had a freeze. Your post was excellent and gave much food for thought. It made me dust off my book, Kingdom of the Cults by Dr. Walter Martin. He wrote 60 pages about Mormonism. He concludes his examination with these words:

"For these facts it is evident for all to see that Mormonism strives with great effort to masquerade as the Christian church complete with an exclusive message, infallible prophets, higher revelations for a new dispensation which the Mormons would have us believe began with Joseph Smith, Jr."

"But it is the verdict of both history and Biblical theology that Joseph Smith's religion is a polytheistic nightmare of garbled doctrines draped with the garment of Christian terminology. This fact, if nothing else, brands it as a non-Christian cult system."

Indeed, Mormonism is a maze of conflicting doctrines with a veneer that attracts new converts because it has elements that seems so fascinating when compared to Christianity. Christians call this the seductive component of its doctrine.

The original texts of Mormon doctrine came at a time when Christianity was experiencing the Second Great Awakening. This period may have motivated Joseph Smith and later, Brigham Young to come up with their own spiritual system to out-do their Christian contemporaries who were engaged in the revival movement. Because both were self-educated it is my believe that their limited comprehension of the written word caused them to fail in their interpretation of the King James Bible and its true significance. It was Joseph Smith, Jr. who wrote, The Holy Scriptures, Translated and Corrected by the Spirit of Revelation, by Joseph Smith, Jr. the Seer . The manuscript was published after his death (1844) in 1867. This writing revealed his level of scholarship with the Bible and it showed him as one who played fast and loose with its translation. The text was filled with spelling errors, grammatical mistakes and punctuation errors in keeping with his poor level of education. It also holds many contradictions, omissions and changed meanings. In short, Joseph Smith invented his own version of the Bible to suit his fancy and to titillate the imaginations of new followers.

Brigham Young took over where Joseph Smith left off in false teachings and the practice of polygamy with 52 wives. This is another case where poor education caused him to invent his own doctrine that he claimed was "revealed" to him by God. The primary source for Brigham Young's teachings are his sermons, most of which are recorded verbatim in The Journal of Discourses in 26 volumes. I will not go into detail, but to say that it has all of Young's false teaching and has to this day been swept under the rug as recent as the publication, Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young in 1997.

I end, saying that both Joseph Smith Jr and Brigham Young would have given more to the wealth of the Second Great Awakening if they had explored the Bible with the aid of those who had the scholarship, who could read the original Hebrew and Greek texts, and had the true meaning of the Bible written down and for all to understand. They did not. Instead, they showed what happens when men, without the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, get into the Bible to use it for their own purposes and not God's purpose.

[Nowhere Man]

My only exception(s) on religion...

ATTENTION lurkers!

This dude is NOT a representative of ALL Lutherans!

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Although I was baptized Lutheran, I do not claim to represent the Lutheran faith in my post but my own assessment and sizing up of the situation we face. My posts are from me only and represent me.

[Nowhere Man]

I don’t care if a candidate worships trees and rocks. If he believes in a free-market economy, low taxes, a strong defense and a smaller, more efficient government, I’ll vote for him.

Amen! This is a touchy subject, but As long as his/her religion does not advocate flying planes into buildings or advocate human/animal sacrifice. I believe the candidate needs to believe and follow basic/Mosiac Law (The Ten Commandments reaffirm the basic dealings and the way we should act towards each others as a standard of law) and be pro-life and pro-traditional marriage personally. Still, the last two under our form of law should be basically left up to each State to decide for themselves although I'd like to see a pro-life Amendment. Still, you hit the nail on the head where you need someone who know what they are doing and where we'd feel comfortable handling that "3 AM hone call."

[Nowhere Man]

I am not voting Romney, I am voting for a strategy.

My speculation is that if Romney were to be elected and Obamanoid communists who would like to root out all illumitatis, Jews, mormons etc... not under their direct control savages them, then it is more points for conservatives and the realization that Christians are right along in being with the story of the true Jesus Who was persecuted.

I know, I'm not 100% comfortable with Romney, but I do say he is heck of a lot better than Bammy. I know we will never agree 100% on out views religiously or even politically at times, but the thing to remember is that we must hang together or we will hang separately. Life is not fair and I know we will not get 100% of what we want with Romney but I think he will do the right thing most of the time. As the saying goes "half a loaf is better than none" and perhaps we might even get 75 or 80 percent of the loaf. We need to quit this infighting over all this minutia and accept reality for what it is and speak with one voice.

[Elsie]

The Muslims I know are terrific people. Of course they’d be even better if they took a drink now and then. But hell yes I’ll vote for a Muslim candidate. Muslims are awesome Americans. And God loves ‘em too!

[Elsie]

Yeah, the mormons of late I know have been thoroughly brainwashed by their church as to accept gays.

Just ACCEPT??

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I'm a MORMON ...

 

 

 

http://www.affirmation.org/

[Elsie]

What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?

 

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"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982

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"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

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"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65

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"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196

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"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.

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"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965

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"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155

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"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.

[Elsie]

"For these facts it is evident for all to see that Mormonism strives with great effort to masquerade as the Christian church complete with an exclusive message, infallible prophets, higher revelations for a new dispensation which the Mormons would have us believe began with Joseph Smith, Jr."

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2 Corinthians 11:12

And I will keep on doing what I am doing

 in order to cut the ground from under those

who want an opportunity to be considered equal

with us in the things they boast about.

 

[Elsie]

My posts are from me only and represent me.

And that was just what I emphasized.

[Elsie]

This is a touchy subject, but As long as his/her religion does not advocate flying planes into buildings or advocate human/animal sacrifice.

We have killed over 45 million humans that would have become productive Americans on the altar of CHOICE.

ANYONE who does NOT try to over turn that travesty would be considered...

[sand lake bar]

Your comment on Muslims is both true and stupid at the same time. Amazing! Congratulations.

[Elsie]

This is a touchy subject, but As long as his/her religion does not advocate flying planes into buildings or advocate human/animal sacrifice.

 

The gruesome be headings of some 40 Ute corpses in 1850, heads stacked in boxes,

and hung by their long hair from the eves of buildings at Fort Utah,

 has long been ignored, “You didn’t see the Indians beheading the Mormons.”

 

-- Historian Robert Carter

[Elsie]

I try to please!

[aruanan]

"Hmmm, so if I do what you say, I'll turn into an old fart like you sublimating your lust into sex talk for young people like me?"

[Nowhere Man]

We have killed over 45 million humans that would have become productive Americans on the altar of CHOICE.

ANYONE who does NOT try to over turn that travesty would be considered...

Agreed. Still under our system, the way I see it is that it is left to the States to decide and it is up to each of us in our respective States to work to put a stop to it. The other way to do it is to enact a pro-life Amendment in the Constitution itself.

Sometimes what is legal isn't moral although there are way to work to make it so under our system although it may be tough and imperfect at times.

Yes, it is a travesty that we have killed 45 million unborn on the altar of conveinence and "choice." When we are conceived, we are all promise life by God as well as our humanity and I think to take that away is wrong, abortion should be very rare indeed, only to save the life of the mother if there are no other options.

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah, I think people of all religions used their religion to do bad things unfortunately but with the exception of small groups (like the Westboro Baptist Church) or lone wolves, it’s not as much of a problem that it used to be (at leaat thatm ost are aware of), except radical Muslims for the most part.

[garjog]

“Praise to the Man!”

Amazing. Mormon evangelism will sky rocket with the god in embryo Romney in office. He won’t say a thing to promote the faith, but the missionaries will make hey day from the fact that they have their dude in high office.

On the other hand, perhaps the exposure of the doctrine in popular culture will spur reform in the Mormon religion? Maybe a new generation of leaders will come up and do away with some of the crazy stuff and move towards traditional Christian doctrines?

[garjog]

“no religious test”

Of course there is no legal religious test for office. We don’t have a law that says only Christians can hold office.

The questions is: do we want someone who professes a really strange religion as our Head of State? Sure, it may be legal, but is he or she the person we want as our representative?

There are ceremonial duties for that office.

Is the question of a person’s faith NEVER an issue?

What if the person were a Wiccan or a Scientologist?

Would we say, sorry you can’t criticize a person’s private faith. So what if they sacrifice puppies to Isis every full moon or believe they are the descendants of space aliens. They are great on tax policy.