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Can't Feed 'Em? Don't Breed Em!
Conservative Outcry ^ | 4/15/12

Posted on 04/15/2012 6:04:43 PM PDT by evilrooster

"Can't Feed 'Em? Don' Breed 'Em" - - Wonkette.com April 15, 2010

Seems like sound advice to me.

Advice that even my liberal friends can agree with. I mean, isn't that what the "Pro-Choice" movement is all about? Allowing women a "choice" when a mistake is made, when that mistake rains on future plans or worse yet, when a woman cannot afford to support that mistake?

Strangely enough, liberals and conservatives can reach common ground. They just disagree on how to get there. Liberals are Pro-Choice, which affords one the opportunity to "fix" a mistake, while conservatives, for the most part, are Pro-Life, preferring abstinence instead. Liberals subscribe to the belief that government should provide for their contraceptive needs, while conservatives don't believe in funding protection against one's sexual exploits. At the core, however, remains the common belief that one should not breed children if one cannot afford children. As I said, sound advice even my liberal friends can agree with.

With that said, today's political climate would be so much more civil if we chose to focus on our common beliefs, and agree to disagree on methodology on how to achieve them. I suspect we could get a majority of both houses of congress to pledge support for a "Can't Feed "Em? Don't Breed 'Em" campaign. Not a bill promoting contraception or the advantages/disadvantages of abortion or abstinence, simply a campaign to get the message across - If you "Can't Feed 'Em, Don't Breed 'Em"!

How about it Harry? Instead of being seen as nothing but an obstructionist, you could unite both Republicans and Democrats alike around a common cause!

Now the debate turns to what should be done with those who have bred, but cannot or can no longer afford to care for their little ones.

"Mitt Romney Enlists In The War On Stay-At-Home-Moms (If They Are Poor And On Welfare)" - - Wonkette.com

Again, I implore my liberal friends to focus on common ground. Both sides of the aisle agree that government has a responsibility to provide a safety net to those less fortunate. They simply disagree on how to do so. Liberals believe in just throwing money at the problem while conservatives would require one to work in return for receipt of government assistance. One could argue that Liberals would perpetuate the problem by their "something for nothing" solution, while the conservative solution might provide a pathway out of poverty by providing the less fortunate the dignity of work that others enjoy.

Curiously, the conservative approach would spend more money on the problem by also funding daycare to provide for the ability to work, but that's not the point. The point, once again, is there is common ground among the two schools of thought. Why not just focus on common ground, instead of sniping at each other over how to get there? 

Who knows, maybe civil debate on the issues may lead to a common solution. After all, Bill Clinton was a proponent for coming together around a common goal. In fact, he and the Republicans worked together to pass welfare reform in the 1990's. That seemed to work out pretty well...uhmmm...ohhhh...uh oh...he too preferred a work requirement!

Oh well, so much for that. Back to the partisan sniping!  

Mitt's comments on the issue can be found here.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; contraception; moralabsolutes; welfarereform

1 posted on 04/15/2012 6:04:48 PM PDT by evilrooster
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To: evilrooster

‘Can’t feed ‘em, don’t breed ‘em.’

Sounds pretty low class and callous and down right liberal. Count me out.


2 posted on 04/15/2012 6:11:27 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing

Ditto


3 posted on 04/15/2012 6:13:41 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: evilrooster

The author doesn’t come across as a ‘conservative’... unless this was meant to be funny or something.


4 posted on 04/15/2012 6:15:42 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AlmaKing

It that was a trial balloon of sorts, I don’t think it’s going to sail far.


5 posted on 04/15/2012 6:16:01 PM PDT by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: AlmaKing

Think before you act a liberal trait? LOL!

Tell me what is so callous about that message?


6 posted on 04/15/2012 6:18:36 PM PDT by evilrooster (The trouble with our liberal friends is that they know so much that isn't so!)
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To: evilrooster

It is the Sangerie materialists who compare human procreation with animal breeding. No common ground here.


7 posted on 04/15/2012 6:20:19 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: AlmaKing

The way my liberal friends enunciate the conservative position:
We totally support the fetus right up until it is born, after that you’re on your own. Their putative reasoning is that we want lots of poor youth so as to provide lots of canon fodder.

As for me, I used to sort of have that opinion (if you can’t feed them don’t breed them) but there is a point at which the child should not suffer for the sins of the parent. If we are to say that killing it in the womb is not a good thing, is it right for it to not get medical care, food and education EVEN IF the parents are worthless flakes? If we say mom can’t abort it, at what point, at what age, do we say “too bad about not developing mentally due to malnutrition, tough luck about going to a crappy school, sorry about that undiagnosed illness, but not my problem”?

A hard truth is that if abortion is made impossible or difficult, a lot more people will have kids who won’t have the means to raise them. That leaves just two options: deal with more people raised without the education or medical care to be optimal citizens or pay more taxes and acquiesce to a safety net for the innocent kid even if we say ‘to hell’ with the (presumably worthless) parent.


8 posted on 04/15/2012 6:24:22 PM PDT by RedStateRocker
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To: AlmaKing

I guess you are a, Moms thrill them, babies kill them type.


9 posted on 04/15/2012 6:25:21 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: evilrooster

Illogical premise.
No woman is required to raise and support (feed) a child she bears. There is no such law, at least not in the USA and probably not in any Western country.

Therefore, abortion with the excuse of “I can’t afford to raise the child” is a illogical cop-out.


10 posted on 04/15/2012 6:27:41 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: RedStateRocker

The original post is negated the first time a welfare mom says “but I LOVE my kids”.

For your post, if we made it less difficult for people to adopt unwanted American babies there would not be such a huge business in adopting babies from other countries.


11 posted on 04/15/2012 6:36:51 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Lorianne
I agree - my post does not support the excuse of "I can't afford to raise the child" or even justify abortion at all. I simply came across the headline Can't Feed 'Em? Don't Breed 'Em on another website and I wanted to show how ludicrous the statement was. If the post doesn 't come across that way, I apologize. I was not intended that way. Though I don't see anything liberal about thinking before you act (the common ground discussed). There are far too many mothers having children that should not. I mean, if you can barely afford to support yourself, why bring a child into the world?
12 posted on 04/15/2012 6:39:25 PM PDT by evilrooster (The trouble with our liberal friends is that they know so much that isn't so!)
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To: jdsteel

Agreed.


13 posted on 04/15/2012 6:41:10 PM PDT by evilrooster (The trouble with our liberal friends is that they know so much that isn't so!)
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To: AlmaKing

Just curious did you read the Wonkette?


14 posted on 04/15/2012 6:55:36 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: evilrooster

Hard to believe no one hear knows Wonkette, the former self-described conservative blogger, now turned liberal.


15 posted on 04/15/2012 7:08:22 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: evilrooster

I don’t recall “safety net” as one of the limited and enumerated powers.


16 posted on 04/15/2012 7:18:57 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: evilrooster

Often, it has been sited that women have very little upper body strength, but that their legs are extremely strong and can be used for self defense.

Why can’t they be FIRMLY CLOSED, women!!!???


17 posted on 04/15/2012 8:49:14 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

If not closed all the way...then closed just enough to hold an aspirin.


18 posted on 04/15/2012 9:21:03 PM PDT by evilrooster (The trouble with our liberal friends is that they know so much that isn't so!)
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To: evilrooster

Just breed and have them out of wedlock and feed them with that ‘free’ EBT card.


19 posted on 04/15/2012 9:34:28 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Lorianne

What about men who face the prospect of paying child support for the next twenty years?

Because when my family keeps asking me when I’m going to have kids, I tell them not until I have the time and money to do it properly.

And somehow *I’m* the selfish one.


20 posted on 04/16/2012 12:06:57 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

That sounds responsible.
The time to decide to NOT have kids is before they are conceived.


21 posted on 04/16/2012 8:34:41 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Mortrey

Both men and women are capable of saying no.
And both have that responsibility if they don’t want to have a child.


22 posted on 04/16/2012 8:37:33 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: evilrooster
are far too many mothers having children that should not. I mean, if you can barely afford to support yourself, why bring a child into the world? Your choice of language promotes the underlying premise of abortion. 1. That that women (mothers) are the only ones responsible for children appearing in the world. 2. The phrase "why bring a child into the world" suggests a unilateral and after the fact solution (abortion). Also, as I stated above, a woman is NOT required by any law to support a child she "brings into the world". She can relinquish the child through adoption, or even anonymous drop off at a hospital, fire station, police station, etc. So the "can't afford a child" is not valid.
23 posted on 04/16/2012 8:44:09 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: evilrooster
are far too many mothers having children that should not. I mean, if you can barely afford to support yourself, why bring a child into the world?

Your choice of language promotes the underlying premise of abortion. 1. That that women (mothers) are the only ones responsible for children appearing in the world. 2. The phrase "why bring a child into the world" suggests a unilateral and after the fact solution (abortion).

Also, as I stated above, a woman is NOT required by any law to support a child she "brings into the world". She can relinquish the child through adoption, or even anonymous drop off at a hospital, fire station, police station, etc. So the "can't afford a child" is not valid.

24 posted on 04/16/2012 8:44:27 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: evilrooster
The latest scam:

1) Woman has kid.

2) Grandma calls up Child Protective Services, informs them that the mother is unable to properly care for the child, says the child needs to be in foster care. CPS agrees.

3) Grandma agrees to be the foster parent for the child.

4) Grandma gets paid between $400 and $700 per month per child to be the foster parent. If she handles eight kids, then that's $67K per year, tax free, plus food stamps, WIC, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, etc. The rates may more than double if the child is deemed "medically fragile".

California has over 81,000 kids in foster care, at a cost of around (est average $500/mo times 81K) $486M per year.

25 posted on 04/16/2012 9:11:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: evilrooster

Many in Republican circles support abortion because they presume that babies born into poverty would somehow cost tax dollars.

That’s the kind of anti-life attitude bred by slogans like the one in this article.


26 posted on 04/16/2012 11:09:05 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Lorianne
a woman is NOT required by any law to support a child she "brings into the world"

And yet men are.

27 posted on 04/16/2012 11:13:59 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: evilrooster

Seems like murderous “pro-choicers” always miss one option: If you can’t feed your child, give him up for adoption. There are people going to China to adopt children because the system (and the law) make adoption in the US so onerous here. Change that and the problem disappears.

Put the child up for adoption - then leave the REAL parents alone to raise them.


28 posted on 04/16/2012 11:18:52 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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