Posted on 04/19/2012 7:47:32 PM PDT by Chuckmorse
April 19 is Yom Ha-Shoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day. In order to honor the day and to remember the dead, it is proper to reflect upon how the genocide against the six million Jews of Europe happened and why. The answers to this question are obviously complex and varied but the question must nevertheless be asked continuously and not a stone must be left unturned in the quest for understanding. Only in this way can we insure that it never happens again.
The influence of Charles Darwin’s Theory of Evolution on the Nazi movement and the Nazi way of thinking must be considered as part of the mix of ideas that made up the Nazi core. Darwin’s theory, in its essence, is a theory of breeding, what Darwin called “natural selection.” The word “species” is Latin for race and Darwin used the words species and race interchangeably in his writings. Darwin’s work was infused with the idea of impending doom for the human “species” unless the evolutionary process was advanced. Darwin wrote of the survival of the fittest and he viewed this as a natural process in which the superior, or the more evolved members of the human species would advance while the so-called inferior members would naturally die off or be annihilated. Darwin was heavily influenced by the scarcity theories of Thomas Malthus, the world’s first advocate of population control as a means to save mankind.
The belief in biological evolution formed the core of Nazi thinking. They believed that the Aryan race, a mythic conception that they derived partially from the theosophy of Madame Helena Petrova Blavatsky, was a more evolved species or, to use the vernacular, a superior race. They believed that if the Aryan were properly bred, and if the blood of inferior races were bred out of the potential Aryan population, than a new and more evolved species would emerge, what they called the Ubermench, or the Superman. The Ubermench, bred from the blood of German Nordic stock, would be blond, with blue eyes, would possess a perfect physique, would live up to two centuries, and would possess cosmic consciousness. Like Darwin, and like many of his followers, the Nazis believed in the concept of scarcity and that time was running out to save mankind. They believed that the best way forward was to evolve a better species of human beings. They believed it was their moral duty to isolate and to cull the populations of lesser species as they defined the term. Ironically, they did not believe that the Jews were an inferior species but rather they considered the Jews to be a highly evolved species that posed as a lethal threat to the supremacy of the Aryan species. Thus, they reasoned, in order for the Aryans to lead mankind toward the more evolved and perfected stage of biological human development, the Ubermenchen, the Jews had to be annihilated.
From a Darwinian perspective, the Nazi theory actually made sense. Unlike the Judeo-Christian concept, which holds that all men and women are created in the image of God, and are therefore created equal, the Nazis, deriving their idea from the scientific notions of the theory of evolution, believed that men and women were born un-equal and in different stages of the evolutionary cycle. Thus, to the Nazis, the German was more evolved than the non-German and was therefore more fit to survive.
Darwin captured the essence of the Nazi outlook in the following quote from his second book The Descent of Man:
At some future period not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time, the anthropomorphous apes…will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even then the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.
What pantheistic God do you think Hitler and his audience were talking about when he spoke of his Savior's blood upon the cross? A pantheistic God?
It figures that someone who can see “a fox will always be a fox” and think it is embracing Darwinism would also see “the highest image of God” and “my Savior's blood upon the cross” in equivalent terms.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Rather pitiful.
Pantheism believes that Nature is God, not that there are many gods, which would be polytheism.
The point of the “fox” talk post that I wrote was that you are taking Hitler out of context. Hitler posited his fox theory all within the context of an evolutionary framework.
Neither do I believe that you have read Hitler’s Table Talk. Hitler’s Table Talk reveals the real Hitler, unlike Mein Kampf, which in spite of its lurid discussions, was still a politically correct document. Hitler’s Table Talk is loaded with anti-Christian talk. In fact, there is more anti-Christian sentiments in his table talks than Anti-Semitism (Martin Bormann made sure of this because he hated Christianity more than Hitler did - he was the Fuhrer’ secretary).
Occasionally, The Nazis posited a “postitive” Christianity borrowed from Schopenhauer and Wagner, which was a de-Judeafied Christianity replaced with German values. It was therefore an attack on Christianity, not a continuation of it.
I could come up with so many anti-Christian quotes from Hitler in Hitler’s Table Talk that it would take all day to post, if not more. Hitler hated Christianity and had plans to get rid of the Christians after the war. Why? Because in Hitler’s mind, Christianity made Judaism universal.
But all his public pronouncements to his adoring Nazi fans were pro-Christian, speaking directly of Jesus as his savior, of Germans being “the highest image of God”, of Jesus throwing the money changers out of the temple, etc, etc.
“A fox will always be a fox” is a denial that a fox like animal could give rise to any number of other mammalian species. That is a rejection of Darwinism and an embrace of ‘fixed kinds’.
When Germany went to war under the Nazi's it was with the Cross prominently painted on the sides of their tanks and planes. They made medals with “God is with us”.
They carried Bibles printed in German to battle with them driving tanks with crosses on their sides wearing medals saying “God is with us”, being told by their leaders that they were going to avenge their Savior's blood upon the cross.
Sure sounds like they were embracing evolutionary pantheism to me!/s
——the highest image of God. God = singular. How is that pantheism?——
Pantheism means that everything is God, so “God” can be singular.
It’s an irrational idea, so it can’t be rationally defended, but beliefs that generally follow from it are the following. All dualities (true/false, this/that) are only apparent. They are not real. Therefore, what we perceive as reality is only an illusion.
Truth is to be found in Oneness. Pantheist spirituality involves emptying the mind of thought (all dualities) so that God can be experienced directly.
In truth, pantheists emphasize God’s immanence, but reject God’s transcendence. Christians accept both.
The danger of believing that one has transcended true/false and good/evil are obvious, as is pantheism’s appeal to a conscienceless man.
How do you put a pantheistic God that is everything on the cross?
Such a pantheistic God would BE the Cross, the ground it was dug into, the nails, the sword, the blood, and the body.
Wouldn't the pantheistic God that was everything also be everything that was Jewish?
Hitler’s Table Talk has been shown to be an authentic document by virtually all historians. Hitler only talked ‘positively’ of Christianity when in public because he knew that many Germans were still Christians. Hitler refused to believe that Jesus was a Jew, but an Aryan, and a Christianity without a Jewish foundation is no longer Christianity. Any kind of so-called Christian stuff coming from Hitler and the Nazis was all largely borrowed from Richard Wagner’s Parsifal opera fantasy, which had very little to do with historic Christianity.
Obviously, the conversation here is no longer making any progress. You have a Nazi chariacature in your mind that you are not going to let go of (that has all largely come to us thanks to leftist/Marxist propaganda). I am really sorry.
Many Germans were still Christians? How about the vast majority were Christian before during and after WWII?
Obviously I can make no progress in casting the scales off your eyes if you see “a fox will always be a fox” and think it embraces Darwin's theory and read “my Savior's blood upon the cross” and think it makes reference to a pantheistic God.
“I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..” Hitler
Christianity was part of the Nazi party platform.
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.” Hitler
So if you want to make the argument that Hitler was secretly anti-Christian go ahead - hard to influence a movement with secret “table talk”.
His speeches to the Nazi's; providing them their justification to go out and kill - were couched in terms that any anti-semite Christian in history would immediately recognize - heck - he sounded a lot like Martin Luther!
I can only give you my assessment of his beliefs based upon the evidence that I’m aware of.
My conclusion is that he was a pagan/occultist. He abandoned Catholicism at a young age, and fell under the influence of various occultists.
He had no qualms about lying, so his actions speak louder than his words.
He persecuted Christian churches and clerics, was heavily influenced by the Thule Society, and wanted to obtain the Holy Grail for its occult powers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/581241/posts
In my opinion he gave his strange belief system a Christian veneer when speaking to a Christian audience.
If you want to make the argument that in secret and in private Hitler was anti-Christian you can go ahead.
But it is hard to motivate a movement to go out and kill millions of people based upon things you said in secret privately.
His public pronouncements that riled up his followers into thinking the Holocaust was a worthy goal of their State were all “Avenge my savior's blood upon the cross” and “cast the money changers out of the temple” language common throughout history to anti-semites who were Christian. Hitler sounded a lot like Martin Luther on the subject.
Think of "mainstream history" as often being equivalent to the news presented by our MSM ... not so good and definitely biased.
Cheers!
There is no such thing as a holy grail in Christianity. This kind of foolishness comes from paganism, not from the Bible. Faith in Christ is what provides eternal life, not the holy grail (Acts 16:31; Romans 4:1-8). It is the historic crucifixion and resurrection that provides salvation, not some kind of false security in contact with holy objects (Galatians 6:14-18; Colossians 2:13-17). Furthermore, anti-Semitism is a pagan invention. It was the anti-Semitic Haaman in the book of Esther who began the hatred of the Jews where we even first see the term “Jew.”
As far as Christianity is concerned, Read Romans 9:1-5 and John 4:22 to see the biblical Christian view of the Jews. Unfortunately, many Christians over the centuries have adopted the pagan anti-Semitism diatribe, but this was a carryover from paganism not from Christianity. Many pagans got saved, but held onto their anti-Semitism, completely overlooking the fact that the very disciples who founded Christianity were all Jews!
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