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Are we ready to look for solutions rather than calling each other names? What do you all think?
1 posted on 05/01/2012 8:27:56 AM PDT by mongrel
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This is more ‘doable’ than one might think

Social conservatives (The Christian Right) has been cast adrift... The GOP likes the ‘social justice’ types, and has been moving that way for some time (note the move from ValueVoters to Saddleback last election). The last election was the first time that the GOP candidate team did not support the main-line view of Right To Life, and this election looks to be heading for a pro-choice candidate.

The Christians are a MIGHTY electoral force, with their own established media, their own networking, and the biggest ability to get boots-on-the-ground of anyone in the country.... Get them excited, and they can easily grow to become close to 1/3rd of all votes cast.

The TEA Partys, while fading and fizzling, are a tremendous coalition with a civil libertarian core, which was capable just two years ago of changing the election without any doubt. It is suffering from a lack of cogent direction, but if that command and control network can be harnessed TOO, look at what we’d have.

These two MASSIVE (gargantuan, really) forces are wholly disenfranchised once the GOP convention runs its course. That is when the iron will be hottest, and that is the time to be ready with the hammer. It is a few short months, but enough time for a popular uprising of Conservatives to coalesce, providing the leadership ties have already been bound, and ready for the task. And I think the presidential election is the very thing to wake a rebellion - get behind a 3rd party candidate and PUSH - Get the Christians to lend a hand and you WILL lift that candidate to prominence. and the fervor generated will flood down-ticket, certainly. And that is a more likely scenario than trying to get folks excited about the down-ticket only (as that is all we can honestly do currently).

And what is there to lose?

While 2016 is important, it is too early to worry about that, with the current distraction of the election in the way. But getting it up and running FOR this election is doable... and with any sort of success this election comes the amplification of power in 2016.

The Christian Right must certainly be the spear - but it will take the TEA Partys, and their political know how to be the point of that spear.

put the two of them together, and there is still one grand chance to waken the Conservative juggernaut.


36 posted on 05/01/2012 10:15:18 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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Work within the system. Voting for another person or sitting home is goin to lead to an easy Obama victory, and quicker death knell for America.


37 posted on 05/01/2012 10:22:48 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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41 posted on 05/01/2012 10:39:26 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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It's funny but the powers that be here think Romney will be bad for so-cons. I think he will be fine, actually as it really won't cost him much to keep us on the plantation.

The problem with Romney is that he will be Bush III. He will increase government and regulation where he can and do what he can to stand in the way of rolling it back.

OTOH, being as how my guys and gals did not win in the primary there isn't a whole lot of choice so I will vote for Bush III and do it in a heart beat over 0.

As conservatives the most important things that must be done are:

1. Fire Obama even if its just to send a message that overt socialism will not be tolerated.

2. Make sure the conservatives down ticket win which means turnout must be encouraged which means Romney must be supported. We can turn on Romney if we want the day after Election Day but for now he must be supported.

There are those who want to be holy and pure and feel good about themselves and vote for "pure" candidates without comprehending that it's the one willing to work in the mud that's actually going to save babies and this country and everything else you hold dear.

42 posted on 05/01/2012 11:29:28 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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Incremental works.

That’s how the DNC won the culture wars.

We need to stop our , all or nothing ,criteria.


46 posted on 05/01/2012 12:04:37 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin,Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry,Rush: Anyone but Obama,because I trust their judgment.)
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Reg Right, now, eh. item four: attainment of world supremacy within the next five years. Eh, Francis, you’ve been doing some work on this.

Francis Yeah, thank you, Reg. Well, quite frankly, siblings, I think five years is optimistic, unless we can smash the Roman empire within the next twelve months.

Reg Twelve months?

Francis Yeah. Twelve months. And let’s face it... as empires go, this is the big one, so we’ve got to get up of our arses, and stop just talking about it.

PFJ Hear Hear!!!

Loretta I agree. It’s action that counts, not words, and we need action now.

PFJ Hear Hear!!!

Reg You’re right. We could sit around here all day talking, passing resolution, making clever speaches, it’s not going to shift one Roman soldier.

Francis So let’s just stop gabbing on about it, it’s completely pointless, and it’s getting us nowhere.

PFJ Right.

Loretta I agree. This is a complete waste of time.


48 posted on 05/01/2012 12:28:01 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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Did you get the answers you were seeking?


69 posted on 05/02/2012 12:28:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Conservatives have one thing they can count on, their beliefs.

A true Conservative will stand tall against all name calling and bullying.

Pragmatism only gets rinos elected!


73 posted on 05/02/2012 7:42:59 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worst Rinos ever!)
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I've pretty much refrained comment on the 2012 presidential race with Romney as the nominee. However, the GOP is bigger than the presidency. That's one office.

I'm going to be investing my time on the races down the ballot. Mitt Romney sucks. However, Tim Walberg is a pretty good congressman. I'm not going to throw Walberg under the bus because the presidential nominee sucks. Debbie Stabenow needs to get fired. I'm voting for Peter Konetchy in the primary but will vote for whoever the nominee is over Stabenow.

There is a lot of important offices up for election, and we need to remember those. November 6 is election day, not just presidential election day.

76 posted on 05/02/2012 7:56:13 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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