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Preppers: ‘Anywhere from Incredibly Practical to Practically Certifiable’
SHTF Plan ^ | 5/3/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:28:24 PM PDT by Kartographer

With the 2012 Doomsday date quickly approaching, anxiety and fear are gripping more and more people across the globe. According to a recent survey of individuals in over twenty countries, 15% of people worldwide believe the end of the world as we know it will happen in our lifetime.

“Whether they think it will come to an end through the hands of God, or a natural disaster or a political event, whatever the reason, one in seven thinks the end of the world is coming,” said Keren Gottfried, research manager at Ipsos Global Public Affairs which conducted the poll for Reuters.

“Perhaps it is because of the media attention coming from one interpretation of the Mayan prophecy that states the world ‘ends’ in our calendar year 2012,” Gottfried said, adding that some Mayan scholars have disputed the interpretation.

Source: Reuters

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; shtf; survivalping
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To: carriage_hill
In the 80s, it meant ignoring all postings by an individual, which may reflect on the meaning you describe. ;)

I had programs that would strip out certain posters from mail-lists and newsgroups that I subscribed to, back in the 300 baud days.

/johnny

51 posted on 05/04/2012 2:44:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I still have one of those 120Mb Super Drives that uses the double thick 3.5" disks...and I have the driver disk. Not really Old School...yet...but I refuse to throw it out because it is so cool and so much better than 1.44MB drives.

Forget the fact that it is totally useless in any PC platform today. It would make a fromidable projectile...if propelled by sufficient velocity. And it would freak out and kill a zombie...so I'm keepin' it.

52 posted on 05/04/2012 3:02:39 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Wow, a trip down memory lane.

I started with an ‘82 IBM PS2/50 (microchannel), w/ 2 40k floppy HD-drives (still have it in the basement), DOS2, and accessed CompuServe BBS w/ 9600 baud modem.


53 posted on 05/04/2012 3:04:32 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
That made me snort part of my 5pm Friday beer onto the keyboard. LOL!

/johnny

54 posted on 05/04/2012 3:06:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: carriage_hill
I built an IMSAI S-100 bus that ran CP/M. Remember the pip command?

Started with paper tape, and upgraded to mag tape and then the 8" floppies. Also upgraded to a Z80 card. With an extra 4K of memory. That cost real money.

We have it good today with cheap and fast computers.

And I am grateful.

/johnny

55 posted on 05/04/2012 3:12:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
C:\>dir | more_

DIR c:\data\docs | SORT /+39_

We do have it easy today. That PS2/50 cost me $4500, which was (and still is) a lot of bucks in '82.

The good old days, huh?

56 posted on 05/04/2012 3:59:53 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: Pollster1
Hard to prep without any money.

It's surprisingly easy with just a little money.

You posted a good, helpful constructive response.
This is what sharing thoughts and experiences on these threads is all about.

Just saw a 50 pound bag of rice at Sam's Club for less than $18. A big 7 pound #10 can of Showboat Pork and Beans is $3.78. A #10 can of Tomato Sauce is still only $2.67. Tins of Vienna Sausage are still only 50 cents in most local stores. All of these products can last in storage for years.

In my area someone usually has pasta on sale every week They are buy-one-get-one so it comes out to about 70 cents a pound.

We have had two occasions where popular selling, national brand pasta we brought home developed weevils. They spread fast and are tough to get rid of. So it is advisable to put pasta in the freezer for a while if you are going to keep it for any length of time. Freefing kills the eggs (if any) before they can hatch. We like to freeze it for at least 10 days.

Your comments on water point out the most obvious, least expensive and one of the most important steps any prepper should take. Without water in an emergency you won't live long enough for food to become a problem.


57 posted on 05/04/2012 4:03:07 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Kartographer

Aren’t the Mods supposed to explain if you ask them?


58 posted on 05/04/2012 4:06:59 PM PDT by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: carriage_hill
The frustrating old days, anyway. I bought an HP TouchSmart not long ago for 600 bucks. I did load linux on it. But it's basically a flat screen with a wireless mouse and keyboard and processors that move fast enough for me. Much easier than keying in octal commands to load a paper tape boot loader.

And it doesn't require adding structure to the foundation of the house.

/johnny

59 posted on 05/04/2012 4:07:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
Time to go to the source and just ask. Every time I've had a post yanked, I've requested it or got a freepmail smackdown with 'don't do that'. And I have had posts yanked. 'Single men in barriks don't grow into plaster saints'

AM, SM (should you not be drowned) can you offer an explanation?

/johnny

60 posted on 05/04/2012 4:17:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Anyone remember what I could have possible posted that was offensive?

Not at all. Confusing.
61 posted on 05/04/2012 4:22:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Kartographer

ACK!

Man! You could have given us a LITTLE more of warning!


62 posted on 05/04/2012 4:23:09 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Kartographer

Have you heard back from the Mod. yet? What did you say?


63 posted on 05/04/2012 6:42:02 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Iron Munro
You posted a good, helpful constructive response . . . We have had two occasions where popular selling, national brand pasta we brought home developed weevils. They spread fast and are tough to get rid of. So it is advisable to put pasta in the freezer for a while if you are going to keep it for any length of time. Freefing kills the eggs (if any) before they can hatch. We like to freeze it for at least 10 days.

Thanks for the kind words and for mentioning an excellent point that I omitted. I freeze all starches (flour, rice, pasta, mashed potatoes, grits, etc.) for a week, based on hints I've read here. So far I haven't had any bug problems with prepper food, and I credit freezing the food with preventing those problems. As you said: This is what sharing thoughts and experiences on these threads is all about.

64 posted on 05/04/2012 7:08:32 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Kartographer

Here’s a minor little ting I just started doing lately.

I travel a lot for my job. Hotel stays 2-4 nights a week. When I leave I take the shampoo, conditioner, bath soap, make-up remover wipes, etc. They expect the guests to use these so what the heck. (I usually pack my own shampoo, etc.)

It’s amazing how fast the stuff starts piling up.


65 posted on 05/04/2012 7:20:44 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction; Sarajevo; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; ...
The moderator said:

"#1 included content by Steve Quayle. Thanks."

Which if I did you have come from his comments in the article the thread was about. As I remember I did quote from the article, but not one of Steve's, but from Keren Gottfried: "“Whether they think it will come to an end through the hands of God, or a natural disaster or a political event, whatever the reason, one in seven thinks the end of the world is coming,”

Now why quoting some one from the article the thread was about is VERY confusing. I have to wonder if I haven't made a enemy of one of our Moderators?
66 posted on 05/04/2012 8:18:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
“Perhaps it is because of the media attention coming from one interpretation of the Mayan prophecy that states the world ‘ends’ in our calendar year 2012,” Gottfried said, adding that some Mayan scholars have disputed the interpretation.

Perhaps it's because people can see the world coming apart at the seams.

We're coming apart morally, society is breaking down, and we have technology that we no longer have the integrity or wisdom to keep pace with using.

I don't know that any other generation has had quite the capability to annihilate itself, or be annihilated by some madman starting a chain reaction of strikes and counter-strikes.

Certain segments of humanity have shown us recently what humankind is capable of and it isn't a pretty sight.

67 posted on 05/04/2012 8:41:07 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer
“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”

Under normal circumstances underestimation can be fatal. In a disaster, it WILL be fatal.

The margin for error is going to shrink dramatically in a SHTF scenario.

68 posted on 05/04/2012 8:44:53 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: JRandomFreeper
3.5 floppies are 'old school'. Sigh. I still have SSSD 128K 8" floppies with DBase and WordStar on them. My nephew calls my living room the 'museum exhibit of ancient technology'.

I was just at a museum the other day. You know, there's something really wrong about going to a museum and finding yourself tripping down memory lane. I should NOT be reliving my childhood in a museum.

69 posted on 05/04/2012 8:53:30 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer

Now, that’s bad.

There was no call for that sort of thing.

For shame........


70 posted on 05/04/2012 8:55:16 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer
I have to wonder if I haven't made a enemy of one of our Moderators?

That has happened to me in the past. I leave some slack because I would not want the job.
71 posted on 05/04/2012 9:08:38 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Kartographer; metmom

I agree with Metmom on this one. I don’t think I have preps for that.


72 posted on 05/04/2012 9:12:26 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Louisiana Superdome post-katrina


73 posted on 05/05/2012 5:28:26 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: metmom
If you ever get over to Nürnberg, Germany, check out the toy museum. That will really freak you out.
74 posted on 05/05/2012 5:54:01 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Kartographer
US Army survival Manual- downloadable

This is a great reference that should complement your information.

75 posted on 05/05/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: Kartographer

There was another post deleted today due to the following: “Doug Hagmann is Northeast Intelligence Network, not welcome on FR”.

If there is something nefarious about some of these people, I wish there was a link on the FR homepage to explain what it is about each one that makes them untrustworthy.


76 posted on 05/05/2012 3:04:35 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: patton

plonk definition
networking, abuse
(Possibly influenced by British slang “plonk” for cheap booze, or “plonker” for someone behaving stupidly; usually written “*plonk*”) The sound a newbie makes as he falls to the bottom of a kill file. While this term originated in the Usenet newsgroup news:talk.bizarre, by 1994 it was widespread on Usenet and mailing lists as a form of public ridicule.
Another theory is that it is an acronym for “Person with Little Or No Knowledge”.


77 posted on 05/07/2012 1:53:10 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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