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To: edge919

“Sorry, but this is logical fallacy. A so-called consensus of stupidity doesn’t make these judges right”
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Sorry, the fallacy is your own. As I’ve said over and over, the consensus doesn’t prove they’re right. I never said it did.

I said that the existence of the consensus indicates that an understanding of the current state of the law is widely shared among judges. I have taken no stand on its correctness.

Why are you having so much trouble understanding that?


58 posted on 05/07/2012 2:28:46 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: BigGuy22

The consensus is the premise behind your posts. Why are you afraid to own that?? There’s no point in bringing up the consensus unless you think it proves correctness.


61 posted on 05/07/2012 2:34:15 PM PDT by edge919
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To: BigGuy22
Sorry, the fallacy is your own. As I’ve said over and over, the consensus doesn’t prove they’re right. I never said it did.

Then why do you keep repeating numbers?

I said that the existence of the consensus indicates that an understanding of the current state of the law is widely shared among judges.

Or a misunderstanding is widely shared among judges. Given the evidence available, this is the more likely scenario.

How anyone could regard an amendment grating citizenship to slaves means we must accept foreign citizens as President is just a stretch too far for a sensible man.

I have taken no stand on its correctness.

Sure you have. By equating falsity and truth as a matter of opinion you have taken a stand for falsity.

Would you be so confused as to the correctness or incorrectness of slavery?

67 posted on 05/07/2012 2:53:20 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: BigGuy22; edge919; DiogenesLamp
This has been a very interesting and informative thread, considering the sparse number of commenters involved. Though quite a bit longer than I expected it to be, I had to read the entire thing.

"I have taken no stand on its correctness."

You certainly seem to have taken some pains to avoid appearing to do so, but a careful reading of your commentary suggests otherwise. At #22 You (BG22) stated:

"You can apply your own logic to whatever quotes of Paine and Jay you care to cherry-pick, but until the courts agree with you, your argument remains a loser.

1. Straight-up Alinskyite bs. Explain how my logic is flawed or retreat from your supposition.

2. Show where I even cited a specific text by Paine or Jay, let alone where I "cherry picked" any quotes by them. Or are you instead suggesting that any quotes by Paine or Jay et al will perforce be "cherry picked?" Definite bias showing there.

3. "Your argument remains (and by extension, you also remain) a loser." Nice.

A trifecta in a single sentence. Impressive. And a fair attempt at subtlety in that last.
/s

78 posted on 05/08/2012 3:00:24 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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