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Don’t talk to your neighbors without reading this!
The Survivalist Blog ^ | 5/16/12 | M.D. Creekmore

Posted on 05/16/2012 8:57:52 AM PDT by Kartographer

The problem with approaching neighbors (with whom you have varying levels of familiarity) and/or total strangers nearby, is that the likelihood that you will actually convince these people to make serious efforts to prep is, unfortunately, small. The unemployment rate may be awful and European economies may teetering be on the verge of a collapse that will start a domino effect, but the average American is more interested in keeping track of who is ahead on “Dancing with the Stars.” These types are sometimes referred to as ”sheeple,” and they comprise the great mass of the American population.

So what happens if you fail to produce any changes in your neighbors’ preparedness level? Well, frankly, you have made it very obvious to everyone around you that your house is the neighborhood “supply depo.t” When an emergency occurs, your unprepared neighbors will view you as their source when they need anything if the emergency becomes very prolonged.

Even if nothing worse occurs, can you imagine the chants of “Hoarder! Hoarder!” from those standing on the street in front of your house? From their perspective, a hoarder would be anyone who was wise enough to put aside anything for hard times which they now want to share (in essence, a socialist mentality on steroids).

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KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers; shtf; survival; survivalists
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To: Kartographer

Please add me to the prepper ping list...thank you!


41 posted on 05/16/2012 10:23:28 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: Kartographer

” can you imagine the chants of “Hoarder! Hoarder!” from those standing on the street in front of your house? “

That may be nothing more than poor English skills on the part of the crowd, coupled with the red light in the Author’s window...

;)


42 posted on 05/16/2012 10:46:12 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

We need to decide where Kartographer’s Gulch will be located.


43 posted on 05/16/2012 10:50:14 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: MrB

I wouldn’t use that strategy. In a bad situation those with assets are the least valued, those with force most valued. In a ‘provider family’ the family leaders will be summarily executed and the rest will be asked to provide resources, assistance or drive the VBIED if they want the others to live. Saw that it in Iraq.

Anyone who takes the ‘giveaway’ tact will be seen as a provider and preyed upon relentlessly. Best to have a large family or a good co-survival/co-defense arrangement with their neighbors. When the gangs come you hit them hard with everything you have. That will make you known more for force than provisions. They’ll go elsewhere.


44 posted on 05/16/2012 11:02:34 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa

The reference was to “legitimate” authorities who are confiscating supplies and weapons “for the greater good”,

not to roaving gangs of thugs without the color of authority.


45 posted on 05/16/2012 11:08:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: outofsalt; JRandomFreeper

Somewhere near JRandomFreeper’s resturant would be a good place. “You kill it and he’ll grill it!”


46 posted on 05/16/2012 11:08:50 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Ray54

Check most Prepper threads and you will see it. I’ve been harassed by those saying I want something bad to happen and if it does I should ‘share’ my stores with the less fortunate. And if you look we already have two people claiming that any shtf is God’s will on this thread.


47 posted on 05/16/2012 11:17:00 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mich Patriot

“My lazy-assed, garage dwelling neighbor is 37 years old and lives with his mommy. He got a SS award for being “bipolar” (which IMO is a skittles and rainbows diseases that lawyers use to f#ck the system and profit).” My wife has got a nephew and I have a “son-in-Law” that is like that.


48 posted on 05/16/2012 11:17:50 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Kartographer

I have co-workers I have tried to convince to “arm” themselves to no avail. If they show up at my door, I will have no pity for them.


49 posted on 05/16/2012 11:20:41 AM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: Kartographer

Well, I’m not going to be selfish... they can have my food when I’m done with it.


50 posted on 05/16/2012 11:23:36 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MrB

The types who get me are those who say they’d just as soon die right then and there. No, they’ll never give a decent answer as to what constitutes a lay down and die event. I’ve mostly held my temper knowing it’d do no good to ask them by what method were they going to take out their kids with themselves or were they going drop their kids off with a nice zombie clan or leave them to fend for themselves.

No, I don’t tell my neighbors or family. Not that I have that much “hoarded”, just enough to get us over a few hiccups but nothing extended because it’s not in the budget. There’s one friend who talks big about needing to prep but hasn’t gotten off the couch. I suspect there is a significant percent of couch talkers. Though it is interesting that so many feel bad vibes headed our way.


51 posted on 05/16/2012 11:45:59 AM PDT by bgill
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'm back in the neighborhood that I grew up in, and have known all of my neighbors except a few for decades.

Same here except the old salt of the earth folk have died off over the years only to be replaced with yuppy libs who haven't a clue.

52 posted on 05/16/2012 11:51:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Mich Patriot
Um, your mind must be in the gutter. I'm a lady! If the other neighbor ladies are coming to me it's because they don't know how to flip a switch on the breaker box.
53 posted on 05/16/2012 11:54:17 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Kartographer

What? I agree that God gave men free will, but what does that have to do with me teaching other ladies about prepping?


54 posted on 05/16/2012 11:55:43 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: bgill
Though it is interesting that so many feel bad vibes headed our way.

I've got the feeling that every human on the planet knows "somethin's up". Everyone attributes that anxiety to something. Me? I'm looking up, for our redemption is nigh.

55 posted on 05/16/2012 11:59:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: OHelix

So any evil I do I am not responsible as God created that evil and ordained it to be committed?


56 posted on 05/16/2012 12:03:41 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ottbmare

My error! Replied to the wrong person! Boy am I red faced!


57 posted on 05/16/2012 12:04:29 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Obadiah

That brings to mind that old joke about a guy asking God to save him from a flood. A boat comes by but he says no thanks but that God will provide. The waters get higher so he’s has to go onto the roof. A helicopter comes to pick him up and again he says no thanks but that God will provide. Eventually, he drowns and he angrily confronts God for not saving him. God replies that he had sent the boat and helicopter and whatever else it was.

Perhaps God is sending these doom and gloom vibes to so many people these days for a reason. Perhaps God has seen to it that there is a great increase in survivals supplies in the last few years. Perhaps we’re seeing His rescue boats with these boards and tv shows but too many are the guy in the joke.


58 posted on 05/16/2012 12:06:23 PM PDT by bgill
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To: outofsalt; All
We need to decide where Kartographer’s Gulch will be located.

Speaking of which, I will be doing a reconnaissance mission this summer, driving about 5000 miles about the country looking for good retirement locations. The main goal is a location that could also be a good prepping location, if/when the time comes, and could also be a long-term retirement location. I am looking for someplace where acreage is abundant and inexpensive, ~40 acres or more with a reasonable house for about $350,000. Of course, conservative neighbors are right up there on the list. A red state would be best. But I know that there are many conservative pockets all around the country, so I am not ruling out anything other than deep blue states. Weather – an important consideration since I want to be able to heat with wood in the winter and survive without air conditioning in the summer, and be able to grow crops without irrigation. I was thinking middle of the country, latitude wise, to avoid both weather extremes.

These are just some general considerations. I am willing to consider any alternatives, and and even including a drive to Idaho on my trek. A staunchly conservative area might make up for some of the weather/farming problems.

so, if anyone has any input on where they live or where they would like to live that might be a place I could include on my drive, please let me know.
59 posted on 05/16/2012 12:06:51 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Nailbiter

bflr


60 posted on 05/16/2012 12:11:22 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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