Looks like a NE liberal type car like Oprah would drive. At least the Volt looks like a real car and not a squashed Hot Wheels prototype.
Posted on 06/11/2012 10:56:03 AM PDT by jazusamo
The Volt has something called ‘Mountain Mode’.
You put it in Mountain Mode, well before you anticipate hitting the hills...and some of the gas engine’s energy is used to not only power the electric motor; but, also to recharge the batteries, while on the fly. Obviously, the performance of the car is expected to drop while in this mode.
Then, when you get to the hills, you switch out, and use both battery and engine to power up the hill.
To me, it illustrates how absolutely inefficient the Volt’s powertrain is...
....and it has always left me wondering if a Volt in the Rockies would be stuck in the emergency lane, creeping along at 10 mph.
The switch to a larger engine tends to answer my question.
Mostly, they’re doing whatever they can to stop the laughter.
Looks like a NE liberal type car like Oprah would drive. At least the Volt looks like a real car and not a squashed Hot Wheels prototype.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt#Drivetrain
This has been known since sometime around the initial release.
Where in heck is the water pump on that engine? It kinda looks like it’s driven by the timing chain on the “right” side of the engine. But there isn’t a water outlet, except that really small port.
Oh well at least it isn’t behind everything like it was on my son’s Grand Am. What a piece of poo that car was!
Plus I really don’t like serpentine belts! If the belt goes you are basically dead. BAH!
That said I am beginning to get used to mrs p6’s 1991 Saturn SL1 with ~ 40k original miles. It sat in her uncle’s garage for nearly 15 years. It was running when she got it but after sitting so long I have had to do a lot of work. Replaced the A/C compressor, belt and tensioner, hoses, tires, brakes and...computer...that was on advice, I think it was OK.
My biggest complaint is the stupid sideways engine. Leave enough room to work on it!
Meanwhile my beloved 98 Durango is getting some major work. I’m in the process of replacing the steering gear and wow is it stuck on the center link! Later this week I’ll torch it if nothing else works.
Sorry to get on a rant.
“150 hp from an air-cooled VW? How are you making the other 100 hp? Nitrous?”
http://www.cbperformance.com/category.asp?CategoryID=9
Nope. Just a CB performance engine. I have a Baja that I have blasted all over the Negev.
My 80 LeCar had a 1.4 engine. It wasn’t supposed to have been availble to the public but evidently they brought a few in expecting to test them then decided to dump them.
That silly little piece of French spittle went like stink and got 54 MPG city or highway! That was when it was running of course and when the rear windows weren’t falling out.
After I traded it...on another Renault, sigh...it ended up in the hands of some kids in WVA. One Thanksgiving I got a call from a state trooper asking if I owned the car. For some reason my name was still on the title even though I am in PA.
After I explained, the trooper told me it had been involved in a series of robberies. The kids were running from the cops on twisty mountain roads and the cruisers couldn’t keep up. At one point the kids rolled it, got out, turned it over and kept going.
They were stopped only by a roadblock and spikes.
The trooper asked if I wanted the car back!
Nope!
What a joke. Calling the Volt an electric car is like calling a Suburban an alternative fuel vehicle after attaching a 5-gallon propane tank to it.
(Which a lot of people in Arizona did when, a few years back, the state government insanely offered to pay for half of your new car’s sticker price if it was an alternative fuel vehicle. They’re still clogging up our HOV lanes, because they got special license plates, too.)
Given the Volt sales to date, it is pretty clear that GM has not yet generated enough revenue to cover its original development costs. This is a financially painful move.
Most car models have a 4 to 5 year product cycle. The Volt was introduced mid-way through the 2011 model year. This is way too early in the product cycle for a major re-work of the power train. I'm left wondering about the motivation for this change.
Some highlights of the conversation:
•Farah says that in his mind the Volt is unequivocally an electric car. "The Volt is an electric vehicle...because for the first 40 miles you can get full performance running on nothing but an electric motor until the battery is depleted," he said.
•The Volt has three distinct motive forces in it: a large electric motor, a small electric motor/generator, and a 1.4 liter engine. Up to two of those three forces can be combined in select ways through the Volt's secret sauce drive unit—given the road demands and state of charge of the battery—to drive the vehicle.
•Only the large electric motor is capable of moving the car forward on its own. The small electric motor/generator and the gas engine can only ever be combined with one of the other motive forces to drive the wheels.
•Even when the gas engine is on and partially driving the wheels, it cannot operate without electricity flowing to one of the other motors.
•The gas engine, under most conditions, will be used to drive the generator and produce electricity, and will not be used to drive the wheels.
•There is no "direct" mechanical linkage between the Volt's gas engine and the wheels, rather there is an indirect linkage that is accomplished by meshing the power output of the engine with the power output of one of the other two electric motors.
•Motor Trend's reporting that the magic cutoff speed of 70 mph is what the car uses to determine whether or not to make the engine to partially drive the wheels is incorrect. The engine is used to partially drive the wheels when the car calculates that it will be a more efficient use of the engine's power. There is no hard cutoff point.
Who cares the Volt is a piece of Junk.. Plain and simple..
Good post and all true.
This may be a last gasp effort to save the Volt. Just a guess.
You beat me to it.
The planetary gearbox connects the gas engine to the wheels directly at (bypasses motor), I thought, speeds above 60MPH.
GM: Yes, the Volt's gas engine can power the wheels
The Volt is a series-parallel hybrid. The engine can be mechanically coupled directly to the wheels to drive them. There may also be electric motors coupled, but that would seem to be the choice by the powertrain engineers, and not a requirement. If the engine can be coupled at any time, it can be coupled at any time.
An interesting test would be to disable the traction motor, and motor/generator. I'll bet you a dollar that there is a "limp home mode" that will move the car on only the ICE engine.
Or even a diesel, specifically tuned to one RPM range could get excellent efficiency. Maybe they are thinking of turning this thing into a "regular" hybrid?
Wow, I don’t know on this. I do know that GM has been less than honest on other things and if this is true it means GM’s Andrew Farah, Chief Engineer for the Volt simply out and out lied and it’s on audio tape at the link I posted.
It looks to me that his interview was 2 days after the Motor Trend allegations.
Things have really evolved in the 25 yrs or so since I was building air-cooled VW’s. WOW!
Oh boy a bigger engine for the Volt.
Should make it burn faster.
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