Skip to comments.Putting Up Gutters and Putting Down Tile Will Cost You in Michigan
Posted on 06/11/2012 8:35:54 PM PDT by MichCapCon
Earning extra money replacing gutters or putting in new bathroom tile will cost you a lot of time and money thanks to Michigans licensing laws.
Without a certificate from the government, a lot of contracting work is illegal.
Michigan's licensing apparatus requires most general contracting workers to pay $235, take 60 hours of state-approved education, pass two exams and be over 18 years of age. Tiling, pouring terrazzo and putting up gutters are covered as maintenance and alteration contractors. Michigan is one of only 10 states that requires a license for this type of work and has the fourth highest licensing burden in the country, according to the Institute for Justice, a libertarian public interest law firm.
The Institute for Justice released a study recently looking at licensing mandates around the nation. The report says that a lot of licensing is "irrational" and "a war against work."
Liz Smalley from Michigan's Office of Regulatory Reinvention said that some licensing is not overburdensome and protects consumers. However, she acknowledged that the state "has a regulatory environment that is in need of reform."
"Over the years, occupational regulations have been added and compounded without any attempt to review what is necessary and healthy for an efficient policy that encourages job growth and economic development," Smalley said in an email.
Smalley has worked with the state Occupational Licensing Advisory Rules Committee, which recently suggested 18 occupations that should be deregulated.
The state requires licensing for those doing carpentry work, but also siding, gutters, roofing, insulation and tile and marble. Only five states require any education for this type of general contracting work. Michigan also requires individuals to be of "good moral character." It is unclear how that is objectively measured.
Teri Francis, with the Builders License Training Institute in Williamsburg, said state approval for maintenance and alteration contractors helps them be protected by the laws.
"The license is required for anyone who is working on other people's homes (residential) if the project amounts to $600 or more," Francis said. "That includes time and materials. If a person is working on their own home, the license is not required."
Francis said Michigan licensing law is "now up to par" and that benefits include discounts from some lumber yards as well as marketing aspects.
Smalley wrote that her office recommends eliminating the 60 hours of education and that the exam must only be taken once.
Michigan licensing law also requires painters to pay a fee, take exams and be approved while barbers, are required to spend 2,000 hours in training more than lawyers in the state.
Oh thank you, government! Thank you so much!
“Liz Smalley from Michigan’s Office of Regulatory Reinvention...”
Sounds like something Madonna should be running!
Liz Smalley, Terri Francis... parasites trying to justify their phony baloney jobs created by union thugs lobbying do gooder politicians.
Nothing but a joke. And a bad one at that.
So exactly what does Michigan have to show for this? The best gutters and tile in the land? If it ain’t so, there is no reason not to get rid of this monster regulation post haste.
As usual, reporter doesn't know what he's talking about.
These guys aren't general contractors. A GC would subcontract to these guys to complete the appropriate phases of the project.
When I lived in MT a few decades ago, only plumbers, electricians and similar required licensure.
It would be interesting to see if there is any actual evidence that fraud, poor workmanship, etc. is less common in states where licensure is required.
IOW, does the rationale for licensing hold any water?
These requirements are actually mild compared with some other fields such as hair cutting (as pointed out near the end of the article).
You can look at it as unfair to some people. On the other hand, if there were not laws like this, it might be a lot harder for those who make it into these fields to earn a living.
The State of Michigan is owned and run by unions. That is the beginning, middle, and end of the answer.
“The State of Michigan is owned and run by unions.”
Are you so sure of that? Today Michigan has a Republican Governor, and both houses in the Michigan legislature are controlled by Republicans.
Hmmmm.... Sounds a lot like New York.
Betcher bottom dollar that if they catch some “undocumented workers” from the Home Depot parking lot doing this work, they decline to prosecute.
“On the other hand, if there were not laws like this, it might be a lot harder for those who make it into these fields to earn a living.”
Boo friggin’ hoo. Welcome to the free market (or what’s left of it, sadly).
What kind of Republicans though? Illinois was dominated by Republicans, outside of Chicago, for many years. They didn’t do anything to oppose the unions. Have the Republicans in Michigan done better so far?
This is silly. I have done every aspect of construction for homes, barns, and chicken coups. And missiles and radar. And cast metal and various and sundry machine shop work.
To much regulation. Laying tile is simple.
There is an old saying I heard many years ago..”there are three things anyone can do, paint, weld, and drive a truck”
If you every have the opportunity to visit the USS Lexington and look at the welds you will wonder how it made it through WW2.
There is also that law in Louisiana that requires a permit to make flower arrangements commercially.
I’ve also grown acres of sunflowers just because my wife said she liked them.
Freedom and liberty works every time if you have judgement.
I was born and raised in Michigan and I still consider it home. Typing that, I have watched Republican Governors and legislatures come and go and the unions still ran the State.
As I read the MichCapCon web site I notice the same thing I see here in Virginia and all across our nation; way too many Republicans are just soft Democrats who use the Republican name to get themselves elected but vote and operate as liberals, throwing a bone now and then to the conservatives.