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To: CitizenUSA

The individual mandate (IM) was always a head fake, a red herring.

Obama never cared for the IM, his people wanted a massive tax increase from the beginning but they could not package the legislation as a tax increase.

In Title IX of the Act there are Revenue provisions. These are taxes on incomes and taxes on Employer Sponsored health Plans (ESHPs), as well as myriad other taxes.

The taxes on ESHPs are 40% above a certain value. The ‘value’ is determined by the government and the level is arbitrary. IOW the fed government has the power to force employers to abandon ESHPs.

The taxes on incomes are small and apply to incomes > 200k but these taxes will grow as they always do.

Severability was not included because to have done so would have invited an analysis of whether the plan would work with severability and they were touting the IM was essential which it is not because the taxes in Title IX can be expanded and amended at midnight until they have the massive tax and control that they were after.

This is a poker game and the dems are good at it.

Pelosi said we would have to read the Bill to see what was in it. Well we have and we know it’s a massive tax increase to be rolled out in the next 5 years.

And the awful reality is that Romney if elected will follow through with the tax provisions of Obamacare and he will increase them.

It’s been known since 1996 and before that the USA has to raise tax rates to 86% to meet entitlement obligations. Nearly all legislation coming out now is driven by NWO persons to avoid the US insolvency by cleverly passing tax increases. This is the motivation behind Obamacare, not anything to do with health care.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 1:55:34 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage

And, if SCOTUS throws the whole thing out, what then?


12 posted on 06/21/2012 2:30:53 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Hostage
The individual mandate (IM) was always a head fake, a red herring.
The dems are so good at that game. Like how they put taxpayer funded abortions in the bill just so they could get everyone fighting over that and when that gets pulled then a few mis-guided pseudo-conservatives with all the brains god gave a gnat could declare "now, with this victory, I can support this bill".

The dems are good at playing the "conservatives" in this country (not real conservatives, but those who think they are and don't even understand what the word actually means) like a fiddle.

15 posted on 06/21/2012 3:52:25 AM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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To: Hostage
And the awful reality is that Romney if elected will follow through with the tax provisions of Obamacare and he will increase them.
I'm thinking whether or not Romney will repeal, let-stand as-is or extend Obamacare will depend entirely upon the collective desire of the congressional majority.

I doubt anyone views Romney him as a political risk-taker that ignores the legislature and goes out on limbs all by his lonesome. Seriously, the guy sticks his finger in the wind and goes whichever way it blows him. I can't imagine the boob making *ANY* demands of congress that are not pre-negotiated with congressional leaders. Whenever he acts tough, it will be purely for show. I think you are crediting him with *FAR* larger cojones than he has ever previously indicated.

I guess the bottom line is: Regardless of how you intend to vote (or not) for President, make darn sure you vote down-ticket.

20 posted on 06/21/2012 8:24:12 AM PDT by jaydee770
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