The South is Right!

Nolan Chart ^ | May 25, 2012 | Mark Voge

[ArmyTeach]

I’m recalling my Georgia/Virginia roots ...

[Nowhere Man]

Well, yeah, except that is the dumbest and least related possible analogy you could possibly come up with. I think the holocaust and Sherman’s wholesale slaughter of southerners is closer, but that’s just my gut reaction to genocidal maniacs in general.

The South did have a great Jewish heritage. IIRC, the Confederate's Vice President and Secretary of War (he did double duty IIRC) was Jebediah Benjamin, a Jew. Also, there was General Order 11 where Grant too the property and expelled Jews from selected areas of the South. It was so bad that even Abraham Lincoln didn't like it and put a stop to it.

[Melas]

As a matter of fact I do, but I’m willing to bet you don’t. Granted, it was pure symbolism, but Mississippi was the last state to ratify the 13th Amendment...In 1995.

[Melas]

Your history is faulty. Alexander Stephens was the vice president of the confederate states. Judah Benjamin is who you’re thinking of, and he was the secretary of state.

[no-to-illegals]

Dixiecrats

oh no ... we here in the south must take credit for bill and hillary. Can we point at byrd, and carter? Though none of the mentioned were Dixiecrats or were they? Dixiecrats equals democrats, right? The south did move away from the republican party after and shortly before the War Between the States, if my recollection of history is correct, and started to return to the republican party with IKE. So do we have to take credit for byrd, carter, bill and hillary? Maybe the south would have won if those aforementioned souls would have been born up north.

[no-to-illegals]

courtesy ping

[philman_36]

Two things that Voge got wrong...

...plant the seeds for American democracy.
We're a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. America has democratic elements.

Christ was about liberty, the rule of law, consent of the governed and majority rule. Sovereignty came from God.
Again we're not a democracy which is all a democracy is.

If majority rule were the precept to be followed we would all be worshiping Moloch, Baal or some other false god.

[Boogieman]

“the South was right on everything but slavery”

That’s a pretty big “but” that will always muddy the water anytime anyone tries to discuss these kinds of things sensibly.

[philman_36]

Oops...Again we're not a democracy which is all a democracy majority rule is.

[no-to-illegals]

oh wait ... weren't some of those souls mentioned born up north? Thinking hillary but not positive. Where did all of the aforementioned come from via their ancestors? That perhaps will hold clues or perhaps not. Difficult to tell these days and most everyone can become corrupt, right?

[Boogieman]

Well, the Constitution doesn’t set forth any such restrictions on secession, so I’d say that’s just your opinion.

[Salamander]

Double duh.

;]

[no-to-illegals]

One would have to ask in today's world, is the form of government enjoyed by Americans a Constitutional Republic? The possibility that the Republic died long ago is not remote (imho).

[philman_36]

One would have to ask in today's world, is the form of government enjoyed by Americans a Constitutional Republic?
I would say it's become a combination/mix of an oligarchy and a bureaucracy.

[Boogieman]

Well, the anti-slavery attacks of John Brown predated the pro-slavery raids, so what’s your point?

[no-to-illegals]

would have to agree ... almost totally. Though the totality of anarchy has held off for the present, unless am not viewing the whole.

[Secret Agent Man]

Well you were still wrong about slavery. There would have been little peace between countries where one viewed certain people as mere property.

Modernization would have forced you to give up slavery anyway, the South would not have been able to compete economically.

I don’t disagree about being able to secede, there are valid reasons to do it and also invalid ones. It also doesn’t mean the rest of the states may not have differing opinions as to what if anything needs to be done to the seceding states. And their assessments could also be right, or wrong.

[wardaddy]

The funny thing is that today at least 75% (90% in MS/AL) of white native southron are GOP voters.....my Reconstruction fighting ancestry would be amused how the parties have become the opposite of what each other once was

Nowhere else in the country comes close

Being southern is an identity from Texas and Oklahoma to whats left of Virginia

Anyone from here gets it.....as do plenty who move here.....it is truly a blessing to be American and from Dixie.......ironic we are the last to cling...bitterly i might add.....to the whats left of American traditional culture when we were once rebels basically.......funny how history unfolds

[no-to-illegals]

There would have been little peace between countries where one viewed certain people as mere property.

In today's world slavery continues to exist on a massive scale, and regretfully slavery exists in America. Our politicians invited slavery back to America and for decades refused to acknowledge it (slavery) existed, once more in America. There are new forms of slavery being enacted by our politicians both in the present and in our past. The politicians would disagree. People, in America, are not as free as they once were, instead Americans are burdened with countless methods to keep Americans under the yoke of one form or another of slavery. Our politicians tell us this is a matter of perspective though regretfully the perspective of a politician is how do I hold power while the perspective of the masses of the citizens is how do I survive. Survival verses Power. Which offers (survival or power) the opportunity for slavery to flourish?

[no-to-illegals]

courtesy ping and yes I’m a rebel by today’s standards.