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1 posted on 07/02/2012 4:16:37 PM PDT by Starman417
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Roberts was protecting his image among the people that matter to him. He isn’t fit to tie my shoes.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 4:27:25 PM PDT by pallis
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Smack center on the money. USG _specifically_ forbidden to direct tax things, like the machanition of Health as a tax.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 4:36:23 PM PDT by veracious
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Social Security is clearly unconstitutional.

This guy is smelling the bigger picture. I'm sure many out there have been wondering (were salivating at the thought) what if 0-care was fully smacked down? There is a whole host of other things that would get some mean attention "constitutionally" as a result and I bet social security was one of them.

In my opinion, Roberts and four other justices decided solely based on protecting the federal government first. I bet in that decision lies opinions that "we" can't make it on our own and if my line of theory is right, sadly, true. Large swaths of our population are now in some form dependent on Government (what are the stats now? Couldn't even begin to tell ya because the government plays with the numbers too much) and they are now massing after figuring out they could vote themselves the treasury.

4 posted on 07/02/2012 4:36:54 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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Roberts did not "gut the commerce clause," or limit in any way the vast unconstitutional expansion of federal power under the New Deal Court

Why was that going to happen after almost 80 years?

If the law was to be overturned, it would be because of something specific in the law that went against the Constitution in a way that other legislation didn't, not because of things it shared with other laws passed over the last three generations.

Overturning a law is a big thing for the Court. It wasn't ever in the cards that it would overturn decades of legislation.

5 posted on 07/02/2012 4:41:14 PM PDT by x
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I just heard Mark Levin say the same thing. He should protect the Constitution.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 4:46:19 PM PDT by Signalman
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“It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices,”

I have to agree with Roberts. The constitution doesn’t permit or forbid such a tax - the author tends to leave out the obvious.

If the interpretation is a tax, the congress can obviously enforce it and regulate it. If the people vote for clowns that will increase taxes to pay for a huge government programs - guess what: we get what they ask for.

Lots and lots Republicans choose to sit it out at the last election and didn’t care about the Obama discrepancies in his background. It is those folks that get the credit for the mess we’ve had to endure, along with the folks that voted Obama. Don’t blame Roberts.... particularly when he tells it the way it is.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 4:51:24 PM PDT by mike_9958
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"It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices,"

Those 16 words are some of the most frightening I have ever heard from a Supreme Court Justice.

He has signaled that he has no intention of ever finding anything the federal government does unconstitutional.

He has also signaled that he perceives this nation as a democracy, not as a republic, and as long as you can conjure up 50.1% of the vote, you can screw over the other 49.9% of the population to your hearts desire without interference by the Court.

9 posted on 07/02/2012 4:53:02 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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Art. I, §8, cl. 1. In pressing its taxingpower argument, the Government asks the Court to view the mandate as imposing a tax on those who do not buy that product. Because “every reasonable construction must be resorted to, in order to save a statute from unconstitutionality,” Hooper v. California, 155

From Robert's ruling, and in my mind the key part of his reasoning.

10 posted on 07/02/2012 5:01:09 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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The older Roberts gets, the more clearly he behaves like his TV doppelgänger, Major Frank Burns.


12 posted on 07/02/2012 5:22:41 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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"It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices," said Chief Justice Roberts in summing up the Court's upholding of Obamacare (at 10:25 in the ABA transcript). Wrong. It most assuredly is the job of the Court to protect the people from their own political choices when those choices violate the Constitution,...

That is a dead-on bull's eye. It is specifically the job of the court to "protect the people from the consequences of their political choices."

31 posted on 07/03/2012 8:46:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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Tax vs penalty is splitting the wrong linguistic hair. Roberts is saying that the insurance premium is the tax because there is a penalty for not paying it. Certainly a penalty on a tax certainly could be viewed as a tax as well, but that is not the central point of his ruling.

It is certainly within the spirit of taxation any time your government forces you to pay the piper. It has now been declared it to be so by law as well as in spirit; as it should be.

The fed’s taxing power is unlimited. Roberts is saying to us that we are fools to rely on the supreme court to protect us from such abuses by splitting linguistic hairs. This because linguistic hairs can be split either way; and rather whimsically as he demonstrates here. If the voters don’t want a single payer healthcare system, then its their job to avoid voting for politicians that do. Roberts could not have been more explicit in his statement and his actions.


33 posted on 07/04/2012 1:01:11 PM PDT by Olden
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34 posted on 07/05/2012 9:31:08 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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