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Economics 101 Tells Us That the War on Drugs is a Complete Failure: Prices Are Going Down, Not Up
Carpe Diem ^ | July 6, 2012 | Mark Perry

Posted on 07/06/2012 4:52:57 PM PDT by BfloGuy

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I don't use drugs. I don't like the use of drugs. My nephew [age 26] spent several years in jail for heroin use and died of an over-dose just this February.

Nonetheless, the "War on Drugs" hasn't done a thing to stop the use of them. In fact, as the post points out, the price of drugs is collapsing because the supply is so great.

Can conservatives admit that "The War on Drugs" is, perhaps, a bigger flop than the Democrats' "War on Poverty?"

Or should we continue to "create jobs" by throwing more money at it and feeling really good about how we're helping society?

1 posted on 07/06/2012 4:53:05 PM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: BfloGuy

The only price going up as a result of the War on (Some) Drugs is the cost of lost liberties.


2 posted on 07/06/2012 4:56:44 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: BfloGuy

Don’t worry, once they’re legalized and the government attempts to regulate them then the cost will go back up. Do you think that if the government starts dispensing heroin and meth rations that the cartels will all die? There will just be a new ‘war’, a capitalist competition war between the government dispensaries and the cartels. The supply will simply increase more, which is a good thing I guess.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 5:01:56 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: BfloGuy

A little secret for you:
The cartels will always win because they operate globally outside of all laws & we’re trying to fight them from within the confines of a lawful civilization.
Legalizing drugs will not stop the encroachment of their lawlessness into our world. It will only hasten it.


4 posted on 07/06/2012 5:06:12 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: BfloGuy

My niece was hooked in methamphetamine. BAD! After her third trip to the joint, she got serious and has been clean for over 10 years now. I’m happy she’s not dead. I’m not a big fan of “rehab” because I’m convinced it doesn’t work. She made me eat my words. So okay, it worked once.


5 posted on 07/06/2012 5:06:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: BfloGuy

How hard would you work if you knew that success would mean you are out of work?


6 posted on 07/06/2012 5:07:39 PM PDT by kempster
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To: brent13a

If it’s easier to operate within the law, there will be no room for cartels. After all, where’s the cartel for rice or wheat?


7 posted on 07/06/2012 5:09:42 PM PDT by MetaThought
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The other thing to note is that a theocratic police state - Iran - can’t control its drug problem.


8 posted on 07/06/2012 5:10:21 PM PDT by Strategerist
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So by that reasoning we shouldn’t be fighting islamism? It’s still an encroaching threat that we barely have at bay. By your logic we should disband the military and just let the islamists have their way because we’ll never win.


9 posted on 07/06/2012 5:11:54 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: BfloGuy

Most folks beleive keeping drugs illegal doesn’t stop anybody from getting them, but also believe that far more people would use them if legalized.


10 posted on 07/06/2012 5:12:43 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: MetaThought

What planet do you live on? “Easier to operate within the law” means nothing. It’s always going to be CHEAPER to operate outside of the law....that’s how the drug cartels have gotten so big and powerful.
Government ran legalized drugs would be a bloated expensive disaster just like any other federal dept. is.


11 posted on 07/06/2012 5:15:11 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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How many drugs are imported into Iran via illegal border crossings versus the US? Last time I checked Iran has its border sealed up like Fort Knox. How many SA cartels operate in Iran? I’m going to guess its zero. How many of its own people does Iran murder versus drug gangs murdering iran’s citizens? I’m pretty sure Iran kills way more of its own people. I don’t think it’s a good comparison.


12 posted on 07/06/2012 5:19:49 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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You are wrong. The war against drugs IS working.

Thanks to that war, heroin and cocaine are not for sale at the local convenience store. Heroin and cocaine are not handed out like Slurpees at Seven-Eleven. Heroin and cocaine are not sold like hot dogs at the corner of most streets. Heroin and cocaine are not passed out by vendors at baseball games. Heroin and cocaine are not served at soccer team parties after the championship game. Heroin and cocaine are not placed on your tray by airline stewards. Heroin and cocaine are not everywhere — thanks to our brave policemen and parents and those non-libertarians who support them.

You are WRONG. End of debate.


13 posted on 07/06/2012 5:20:05 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: brent13a

As I said. Where are the alcohol cartels? Where are the rice cartels? They don’t exist.

If the government doesn’t (a) overtax (cigarettes in NY) and (b) overregulate (unscheduled prescription drugs) then there’s no point in having a black market or a cartel.


14 posted on 07/06/2012 5:20:30 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: heye2monn
You are incredibly wrong.

Legalizing does not mean advocating. Think cigarettes and soccer games.

BTW, for the most part, “brave policemen” is an oxymoron.

15 posted on 07/06/2012 5:24:04 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: MetaThought

The Cartel armies are incomparable to the old time mobsters. The Cartel armies are infinitely larger, more global, more resourceful, and infinitely more vicious than any moonshine running gang ever was.
What the heck does rice have to do with anything? There aren’t any ‘rice cartels’ because you can’t get high on rice. That’s a nonsensical non sequitor.


16 posted on 07/06/2012 5:28:19 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: brent13a

Have you ever experienced any serious alcoholism cases? Nasty. Hard liquor should be banned also.


17 posted on 07/06/2012 5:32:08 PM PDT by wrencher
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To: starlifter

So if you’re not advocating drug usage by legalization exactly what should the stipulations be for purchasing legalized drugs?


18 posted on 07/06/2012 5:32:20 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: MetaThought

Archer Daniel Midlands and Cargil.


19 posted on 07/06/2012 5:37:25 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: brent13a

Don’t tell me you are naive enough to believe that your tax dollars are being used for something other than moving paper from one desk to another and putting a good face on it? Really?


20 posted on 07/06/2012 5:38:44 PM PDT by kempster
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