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‘ObamaCare Catch-22': Crushing Fines for Religious Institutions Under Mandate
PJ Media ^ | July 16, 2012 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 07/16/2012 2:57:55 PM PDT by jazusamo

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Yes, and it seems according to this article insurance can be acceptible to Muslims:

What do Muslims believe about insurance?

excerpt:

"In countries with exhorbitant health care costs, one could argue that compassion for those who are ill takes precedence over a dislike of health insurance. A Muslim has a duty to ensure that people who are ill can access affordable health care. In 2010, for example, several prominent American Muslim organizations supported President Obama's health care reform proposal, under the belief that access to affordable health care is a fundamental human right."

21 posted on 07/16/2012 4:08:02 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: xkaydet65
Of course, thjis goes against the Catholic idea of mission. If we serve the needy, we don't serve them because THEY'RE Catholic, we serve them because WE are.

Making care contingent on proselytization is also offensive to our prinmciples, which are based on the Good Samaritan, who cared for the injured Jew and didn't try to make his worship in Samaria.

22 posted on 07/16/2012 4:10:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Westbrook

Doesn’t work for me because I’m old and reaping the “benefits” of my 40 yrs of contributions to SS & Med.

But for young people it looks like an interesting option.


23 posted on 07/16/2012 4:18:27 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Thanks! My cousin was freaking out. So I did the FR test. Thanks again!


24 posted on 07/16/2012 4:43:11 PM PDT by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: texson66

Yeah Obamacare is bad enough as it is.
Every time I read part of it I get a headache.


25 posted on 07/16/2012 4:47:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: jazusamo

Muslims are exempt. Christians can’t catch a break with today’s politicians.


26 posted on 07/16/2012 4:49:14 PM PDT by abclily
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To: nascarnation
By my reading of the bill, there is no mention of this

It wasn't in the bill but after the bill passed, Obama was handing out exemptions like a whore handing out condoms at a Democrat National Convention. I thought I read that Muslims were exempt but I don't know what that entails. The unions were also given exemptions but that was until 2018.

27 posted on 07/16/2012 4:52:49 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: dragonblustar

Just show me a link and I’ll believe it.
Until then what I know is what I posted about Amish and Mennonites.


28 posted on 07/16/2012 4:54:19 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: dragonblustar

Here’s the current list of waiver recipients to help your search:

http://cciio.cms.gov/resources/files/approved_applications_for_waiver.html


29 posted on 07/16/2012 5:09:51 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

I can’t find it. Everywhere I look, people have linked to the government site and now the site has changed and doesn’t mention the people who are exempt.

http://cciio.cms.gov/


30 posted on 07/16/2012 5:17:31 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Agreed, but the Church is going to have to arrive at a solution. There is every chance that the court will not find for the Bishops and even if they do there is no certainty that a reelected Obama will follow the dictum of the Court. My thought would show the absolute intensity of the Church’s refusal to see its teachings held hostage by the govt.


31 posted on 07/16/2012 5:21:30 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: nascarnation

I just found this....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2487700/posts


32 posted on 07/16/2012 5:23:55 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: nascarnation

I just saw what you’ve posted and I’m going to now take a look. sorry about that.


33 posted on 07/16/2012 5:24:46 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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Are the Muzzies exempt for Obamacare?

They've been exempted all along, even though some of their clerics have complained about the religious warfare waged on any religion (or person of conscience) that opposes any part of Obamacare on First Amendment grounds.

It's more than just Catholics, but 0bama recognizes the Catholic Church as political low-hanging fruit. Muzzie opposition is recognized as a low-hanging IED, so things get avoided and overlooked.

34 posted on 07/16/2012 6:07:16 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: dragonblustar

Members of Congress are not exempt. That is a falsehood that’s been circulating for a long time:

http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf

(D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE.-

(i) REQUIREMENT.-Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-

(I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or

(II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act).

(ii) DEFINITIONS.-In this section:

(I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS.-The term ‘’Member of Congress’’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate.

(II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF.-The term ‘’congressional staff’’ means all full-time and parttime employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC.


35 posted on 07/16/2012 6:32:32 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jazusamo, and g’night all.


36 posted on 07/16/2012 7:03:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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