Skip to comments.Dick Morris: Obama to Sign UN Gun-Grab Treaty and RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS
Posted on 07/18/2012 4:24:53 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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“Oh, OK then.
People who take Constitutional interpretation from a toe-sucker are bound to get easily riled up.
Never mind that the Constitution, and the Supreme Court say otherwise - if Dick Morris says it, that’s good enough for me /s.’
The Constitution can be worked around -as we learned recently- and the court is not as concerned with upholding it as in being invited to Beltway dinner parties -as we also learned recently
And did anybody see THAT coming?
Nobody I know did
I dunno if Morris understands the Constitution... but he sure seems to have Obama sussed better than many
Yup, they went in to save the children by burning them up. I remember that day. April 19th. It was on my birthday.
Boehner is a gutless piece of shit.
“I wish we could all be like Texas. Thats why I love Texas so much!”
If Obama wins or cancels the election and Texas secedes, that’s where I’LL be~ I hope they’d be willing to grant a Yank a green card
Nothing justifies what happened there.
However, it did not justify us going all “founding fathers” on our government either.
Thing is, they can only get away with so much before people DO go all “founding fathers” on them. Claire Wolfe famously said, “America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”
This was in the 90’s
I still think we are at that awkward stage, but when I don’t, I’ll be Mel Gibson in The Patriot. But it took significant personal events to turn him around. Likewise here.
I’m not saying it necessarily needs to be a personal tragedy, but it’s got to get a lot worse than it is now. So far, people are talking about what “could” happen.
I’m watching for when it “does” happen, if you and the FBI reading this get my drift.
I think there are more Oathkeepers out there than we realize. (I hope!)
The only way you repeal the 2nd Amendment is by force of arms (use of military troops. The citizen of this Country are not going to willingly comply with a UN treaty. The Police are not capable of taking our weapons from us and I truly believe here would be open revolt if the military was ordered to do so. So what> The UN is going to send UN troops in? Get serious.......”
Did you read the post?
Obama would sign it and we are bound until the Senate REJECTS it, not just parked until the RATIFY it
So Reid won’t vote on it... and if Obama won re election they’ll incrementally inflict as much as they can get away with-
I’d rather err on the side of caution and vigilance than fear appearing to be an alarmist, you can be paranoid enough with this vile regime!
Dick Morris called into the Hannity radio show the other day and tried to talk about this and Sean wouldn’t let him. He kept cutting him off. So, it makes me wonder why. Does Hannity have some doubts, or is this topic off limits for some reason?
Changed to Morris’ petition on my site, here’s the link
tx_eggman is right, xzins, you've got it wrong.
2/3 of Senators present can ratify a treaty.
@ PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 106th CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION
2/3 of the Senate wasn't there. Those present voted for the ratification. The quorum call was rescinded with no objection. That's 34 treaties ratified with a hand count!
It doesn't matter if they aren't present when the vote comes up.
So we have the potential of all these "stand up guys" simply not showing up when it comes time to vote and they can then truthfully claim "I was against this treaty".
They need to formalize their intent to object.
It could be ratified due to one person simply not doing their job properly.
Senate Consideration of Treaties September 15, 2009
The number of senators that must be present for the Senate to do business. The Constitution requires a majority of senators (51) for a quorum. Often, fewer senators are actually present on the floor, but the Senate presumes that a quorum is present unless the contrary is shown by a roll call vote or quorum call.
“The President may bind the country to anything he may say or do until the Senate considers the treaty in full” (pg 93):
This was thought necessary by the Framers to allow the president the ability to negotiate, and he can agree to things piecemeal with the UN or other nations and they hold until considered by the Senate IN FULL.
Yet another concern would be Obama ramming it through in a lame-duck session... the possibility of that strategy being implemented here is real indeed.
Obama signing it is BAD anyway you look at it, and I wouldn’t be count on the Constitution -which Obama routinely ignores- NOR the Supreme Court, who seem more interested in working around it at this point.
Even the UN disagrees with him!
@UN Office of Legal Affairs (OLA) Treaty Section
2. Acceptance and Approval
The instruments of "acceptance" or "approval" of a treaty have the same legal effect as ratification and consequently express the consent of a state to be bound by a treaty. In the practice of certain states acceptance and approval have been used instead of ratification when, at a national level, constitutional law does not require the treaty to be ratified by the head of state.
[Arts.2 (1) (b) and 14 (2), Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969]
Having noted that it should also be noted that the US was not a signatory of the Vienna Convention.
Good on Morris for calling attention to it, but he should at least know what he's talking about.
You got a video link?
This is what Morris is talking about, and I read alternative views elsewhere... sounds like vigilance is the way to go in absence of certainty, no?
Like Levin says.. we are now living in a post-Constructional US- 2 out of 3 branches now openly disregard/twist it
How is Romney looking now, folks?
I don’t. I wish I could say I did, but looking back at the lack on action when obamacare was rammed down our throats, I can’t. Then it was that and since from, their point of view, we did nothing except bitch a little, now this. And it will something else next. Like Hitler in Europe during the 1930s he [obama] won’t stop until he is stopped. And again like Hitler, the only thing that will stop him is blood.
There is no such quote as that!
Here is the whole sentence, not the snippet you have up!
There are only two returns for "full" on pages 93-97 and neither of them go with your "quote".
I suggest everyone read reply 119 after reading reply 114.
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