Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
What-ever. If you want FMD to be more than what he was, a brilliant forger, useful enough to be the head of The Committee for the Protection of the Foreign Born, there’s nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. But note this; it keeps you stuck in the same rut for-ever. They didn’t use Gilbert the scumbag to write that book for nothing.
Excellent points. And of course, when Ayers wrote “Dreams”, he made the literary caveat that “hey, this isn’t really factual, many of the people are “composites” [THERE YOU GO!@!!] and some don’t even exist. Oh, and the timing may be totally off, and we’ve made up dialogue”.
Why does a living soul believe ANYTHING in that steaming pile of propaganda?
And I’ll grab my guitar and sing to the trees and the cats, and unfortunately the mosquitoes.
He lies, she lies, they lie, they all lie, and I’m going to feed the ducks!
‘Dreams From My Father’s’ literary license
Comments (19) By BYRON TAU | 5/2/12 11:14 AM EDT David Maraniss, writing in Vanity Fair, reports that President Obama seems to have taken some degree of literary license in his memoir “Dreams From My Father” — with one character in particular, Obama’s mysterious New York girlfriend.
In one chapter, Obama describes a fight with a woman he describes only as his ‘New York girlfriend’ after seeing a play by a black playwright, after which Obama’s girlfriend asked why “black people were so angry all the time?”
Maraniss, who located the woman that Obama had a long relationship with in New York City, reports that the incident did not happen — and that Obama took a degree of literary license in stitching events and characters together to make his thematic points work better:
When asked about this decades later, during a White House interview, Obama acknowledged that the scene did not happen with Genevieve. “It is an incident that happened,” he said. But not with her. He would not be more specific, but the likelihood is that it happened later, when he lived in Chicago. “That was not her,” he said. “That was an example of compression I was very sensitive in my book not to write about my girlfriends, partly out of respect for them.”
It would be hard to accuse Obama of painting an idealized portrait of himself in “Dreams” — he does, after all, admit to things (like drug use) and tackle subjects (like race and identity) that most budding politicians would gladly steer clear of when writing a memoir. But it underscores how, in writing “Dreams,” Obama had literary ambitions that seem to have sometimes exceeded the literal truth.
It’s an interpretation that Maraniss largely backs, telling Vanity Fair “I say that his memoir is a remarkably insightful exploration of his internal struggle but should not be read as rigorous factual history.”
UPDATE, via Dylan Byers: Obama disclosed that some of his characters were composites. In the introduction to “Dreams from My Father,” he writes that “some of the characters that appear are composites of people I’ve known.”
Composites indeed. Along with a whole bunch of “made up out of whole cloth” lies!
I don’t want anything for/with FMD, I want the traitor to be removed before Nov.6th. After that is far tooo late for what has BEEN known as the Republic of the United States of America!!!
I don't care how much different immigration is in the US and Australia, if I were that official, I would also treat him as a refugee. What other classification might there be? He's too young to be an illegal immigrant, someone put him on that aircraft, and didn't provide him with enough ID to get off at the other end and walk out of the airport. That's according to some of what Sven Magnussen is trying to tell us, and it fits.
FOR THE RECORD:
Obama, the African Colonial
American Thinker ^ | June 25, 2009 | L.E. Ikenga
Posted on Thursday, 25 June 2009 3:54:57 PM by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts
If you stumble into this thread and are interested in some background research, there are over 800 comments you can scroll through for information, some are a little outdated, but none of it’s boring.
Whoa, 1300 post. Hello Fred, I was just looking at the way the BC was made you posted and how stanley was added.. I was just running names through the archives and noticed they have a “Anne” and a “Ann” listed with same birth and same famly tree. And also have you noticed how curley stanley anns hair is and short, while the other stanley ann has long streight hair and look just alittle differ.. Kinda makes you wonder if there was twins born Ann and Anne.. just thought, but there is no cesus records to varify
What are you protecting by directing attention away from communist FMD? Is it just your fantasy that Malcolm X MUST be the father and Valerie Sarruf the mother? Or are you actually protecting Obama from having his real father discovered? Sometimes I wonder, especially when you post this intentionally misleading nonsense. This behavior of yours fits perfectly an insidious form of Obot trolling designed to lead FReepers away from the truth and to encourage them to believe a fundamentally flawed narrative which can only protect Barry.
Lets assume, that Zero’s real momma died in 1970 (the other ann) - that would be a good reason to come live with madelyn at age 10, and it would prove why he is not on stanley anns and lolo tax record— if you go to google images you can see the differ. in the (2) anns- curley nappy hair and crocked teeth on one and streight and long hair on the other one— what you think?
Hello Sweetness! There you go again, trying to make me angry so you can write to the Mods and the owner of the site and report me for being rude and posting comments on a thread you keep saying belongs to you...which is doesn't, and most of the time when I do post an image of dear old Frank I post a composite in which his age varies from a Youth to someone in their retirement years:
Now, about SAD arriving in Hawaii in 1960, unless you can show us any physical evidence that's where she was, there's still a mountain of doubt about that, but I can wait.
Your attempt to bolster your assertion by cleverly posting pictures of FMD at age 80 is flagrantly dishonest and typical of your behavior on this thread and on all eligibility threads.
Not at all, you see I am not guilty of cleverly posting pictures of FMD at age 80 and the only person I know who based an entire book on identifying FMD on one and ONE ONLY image is your hero, the author Gilbert. His assertion also appears to rest on the identification of a professional model for erotic image magazines - a girl who had a long career of it and wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham, oh and that piece of wood from a floor that been in a shed for 50 years...a floor he identified from photographs that he downloaded from free-vintage-porn.com which website I traced years ago...when the photographs were first shown.
What are you protecting by directing attention away from communist FMD?
Deat Sweetness, nothing has changed, I've been saying that FMD isn't the father of zero for years, and that little teenage girls just out of high school who have never had a boyfriend according to her classmates (you do believe she went to Mercer Island High School, don't you?) don't jump into bed with a black man thirty-seven years older - a chinless, barrel chested creature with a nose like a dumpling, he's not what little girls dream of - in fact, the very idea is enough to make a normal person feel sick.
That's if she was there in Hawaii in 1960 of course, but all we could ever find was Ann S Obama in the directory and the girl identified as Ann at the Nachmanoffs. Billy Ayres was the one who let it slip she was in Chicago when she was only sixteen then and as her Uncle was Deputy Director of the Library of the University of Chicago, which she had been accepted to attend, it's not hard to imagine that's where she was, going to the movies to see Black Orpheus which wasn't released in the US until December, 1959. Her school chums say she and her father had a very confrontational relationship, they fought a lot. So maybe she did what many girls do, she left home and went to live with her Uncle, whose wife was on a committee with the wife of David Axelrod and they all lived in Hyde Park...just around the corner from a lot of VIP's who feature in this sad story...
Is it just your fantasy that Malcolm X MUST be the father and Valerie Sarruf the mother?
No, not really, you keep saying it so if it's anyone's fantasy, it might just be yours? Or your worst nightmare, take your pick, Dear Sweetness. Considering that I have never written anything like that on a thread, it makes me seriously wonder - are you trying to put words into my mouth and for what?
Or are you actually protecting Obama from having his real father discovered? Sometimes I wonder, especially when you post this intentionally misleading nonsense.
Funny thing about that my dear, sweet correspondent, I had exactly the same thoughts about you.
This behavior of yours fits perfectly an insidious form of Obot trolling designed to lead FReepers away from the truth and to encourage them to believe a fundamentally flawed narrative which can only protect Barry.
Please allow me to pay you the same compliment.
I think it’s becoming ridiculous, that’s what I think.
When asked about this decades later, during a White House interview, Obama acknowledged that the scene did not happen with Genevieve. “It is an incident that happened,” he said. But not with her. He would not be more specific, but the likelihood is that it happened later, when he lived in Chicago. “That was not her,” he said. “That was an example of compression I was very sensitive in my book not to write about my girlfriends, partly out of respect for them.”Yes, well, we look at the "photo" of Genevieve and a male with a white hand and Obama's hundred-thirty-percent-sized head, and conclude the same: it didn't happen this way.
A conclusion reached by David Maraniss. As Rush Limbaugh phrased it, Maraniss tried to help Obama with the problems of Dreams and succeeded in demonstrating Obama "made stuff up."
From Cashill's analysis, it's clear it was Bill Ayers who made stuff up.
From years of scores of people poring over the records, finding forgeries, gaps, overwrites, erasures, et cetera, it's clear the record can be dismissed, that Barack Hussein Obama Jr. was not the father of this legend.
That Stanley Ann Dunham wasn't in any hospital giving birth to him.
That Frank Marshall Davis was mentor from age nine through eighteen, but not the father.
That the resemblance to Malcolm Little aka Malcolm X aka El Hajj Malik Al-Shabazz is greater than to either Barack Hussein Obama Sr. or to Frank Marshall Davis when we look--not at a single photo of any of these--at all the evidence.
We can agree that the current president isn't who he says he is, that he hides records of Occidental, Columbia, Harvard for good reason, that there are telling gaps in the record with bushels of protesting-too-much patches.
Zero is perfectly capable of acting to further Islamo-Communist ends without having to possess particular genes.
He's indoctrinated, trained, groomed, placed, and prompted to perform for the benefit of his sponsors.
They are enemies of America, and of freedom, as is he.
More lies, delusions and misdirection.
“Ann S Obama” was a totally plausible version of her name in the Seattle Polk, which corroborates the U of WA transcript and has nothing to do with HI.
The U of HI registrar and U of HI current and contemporaneous records affirm and cross-corroborate that SADO was at U of HI beginning in 1960 and returned to HI in the fall of 1962 (prior to your delusional 1963 date).
The Ann(a) in the Nachmanoff photo was suggested to be a named Japanese student by a fellow student, the Cambodian, IIRC. There is no marriage vital record or any record anywhere of an alternate Ann S. Obama associated in any document or witness account who is not SADO.
The FOIA INS docs confirm and cross-corroborate all of the above EXACTLY in multiple places confirming SADO in HI in 1961 and pregnant, most likely dating to conception in 1960, placing her in HI in 1960.
There is no evidence of any other son of BHO Sr. in HI and no evidence that Roman Obama of Equatorial Guinea was ever in HI as and infant/toddler or in Kenya as a “dark boy”
There is no evidence that David Obama did NOT exist or that Mark's family photos are faked.
There is a lot of evidence that you are delusional or intentionally trying to sucker gullible FReepers into buying a narrative that would subject them to ridicule, where they to embrace it, a narrative that protects Barry by steering FReepers away from investigating where SADO was when she gave birth to the little red-diaper baby.
That is where Barry is most vulnerable and you appear on eligibility threads almost every day protecting him with what appears to be intentionally dishonest misdirection away from the conclusive evidence that SADO is Barry's mom.
Yes, you did affirm to David in a reply comment to him which I posted several times upthread that Barry is the son of Valerie Sarruf by incorporating a quote from his statement affirming same snd posting a picture of Valerie Sarruf in that same comment, so another lie from you.
You have never shown the slightest bit of credible narrative explaining when Mal an Val were together, that she was pregnant at the specific time required, or how they passed their spawn supposedly to Maya Angelou who had a brother in HI.
Could be. Could be. Apropos of nothing: The women look like Turdi, the cross-dressing nanny.
“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98.”
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