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To: little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; LucyT; hoosiermama; melancholy; null and void; ...
“Unless people start discussing American Idol or something totally unrelated. That is hijacking.”

Posting bright shiny objects, like pictures of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf and claiming they are Barry's parents based on nothing except speculation IS American Idol level hijacking...especially on a thread about a birth record in Kenya claimed to be linked directly to Barry's namesake.

Was actress Valerie Sarruf in Kenya in 1961 on an Avenger shoot? That would be germane to the topic.

The identity of Valerie Sarruf as a claimed mom for Barry (with Malcolm X as the dad) was revealed on the public FR thread comments:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=212

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=269

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=273

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=294

This claim of paternity/maternity for Barry may have first been put forward by Polarick (Ron Pollard) in this video morphing Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf into Barry's image in a very creepy fashion:

“Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man - YouTube”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8

FReepers supporting Valerie Sarruf as mom seem to regard her name as a big secret but have been coming on nearly every eligibility thread and posting her picture and/or comments such as “Stanley Ann is NOT Barry's mom.”

No documentary evidence other then “degrees of separation” to bit-players in the FOIA narrative are ever offered, such as a non-blood relationship to a former babysitter of Barry, Mary Toutonghi.

I regard the persistent diversion of eligibility threads off into “SADO is not the mom” wild goose chases to be a form of not just hijacking but trolling. This activity only aides Obama’s team, IMO.

If interested, why not just start an FR thread on the topic of “Are Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf the parents of Barack Obama? and leave the evidence based, forensic eligibility threads on FR alone?

BTW, numerous false claims (claims with no contemporaneous evidence) flow directly from the “Valerie is his mom” cult-like belief. Defense of these claims spam up eligibility threads as well:

1. SADO was never in HI until 1963 and never attended U of HI
2. SADO was never in WA at U of WA
3. BHO Sr. married a Filipina named Ann S. Obama and had a baby first named BHO II, but then changed to Roman Obama.
4. Roman Obama was the baby who was babysat by Mary Toutonghi but in January of 1961, not 1962.
5. Roman Obama (pictured as an adult in Ghana, IIRC and posted on this thread as another hijack) is the “dark boy” in the pictures originally provided by and identified as being Mark Obama.
6. Baby David Obama never existed because it is actually the man now known as BHO II who was in the picture with “dark boy” Roman Obama (where or how is not explained or documented)

All of these six points (and numerous others) appear to have been inserted in the narrative by the Mal and Val crowd to explain away the possibility that Stanley Ann is Barry's mom.

That helps Obama, IMO whether intentionally or not.

On any eligibility thread where evidence is found or discussed that assumes or supports Stanley Ann as the mom, the Mal and Val FReepers are right there to divert the thread with claims that Stanley couldn't have been there or wasn't his mom or here is this bright shiny distracting picture of Malcolm X or Valerie Sarruf.

Can one of you fans of this Mal and Val theory just get your new thread going showing evidence backing your claims?

631 posted on 07/25/2012 1:16:00 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I will copy below a comment I made up the thread, but first I’ll ask you a question.

Do you think that Arpaio and Zullo proved that the birth certificate posted on the White House website is authentic or a forgery?

If you think it is a forgery (as they did prove beyond a shadow of a doubt to anyone who followed their points), then here is my other question to you and anyone else interested in the truth about the man in the WH:

Here is a question everyone should be thinking about.

Now that Arpaio and Zullo have PROVED WITHOUT THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT that anyone can go get a Hawaii birth certificate EVEN if they were NOT born in HI, and even years later, if Stanley Ann Dunham and the Kenyan Obama are the parents, OR if Stanley Ann Dunham and FMD are the parents, why did the forger/s have to make SO MANY CHANGES????? Even if he was born in Kenya to either set of parents?

The forger could have just gotten the regular HI birth certificate and made a few, one or NO changes. Since “fake but real” birth certificates are as easy as pie to obtain in Hawaii, there would be no need for a forgery, or at the most, one little change, if FMD is the father, as some people are speculating. If that was the case, then “African” would not be there, but “Negro”!

There is only ONE EXPLANATION for the multiple layers and other clear evidence of forgery - including the fact that the purported mother’s name is partly ball point pen and partly fine tip marker pen, obviously forged.

The ONE EXPLANATION is that either nothing or very little on the BC is accurate.


637 posted on 07/25/2012 3:50:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Seizethecarp

Now that the OP has discussed an alternate theory on HIS thread, it’s apparently no longer a “hijack” to post an opinion other than those with which he agrees.


640 posted on 07/25/2012 4:02:37 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Seizethecarp; David

YOU WROTE:

This claim of paternity/maternity for Barry may have first been put forward by Polarick (Ron Pollard) in this video morphing Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf into Barry’s image in a very creepy fashion:

“Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man - YouTube”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8

WHY NOT PROVIDE A LIVE LINK?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8&list=UUp5Mqb8hSKGI1hbk5ayzXXA&index=18&feature=plcp

HE WRITES:

Uploaded by TheDrRJP on Aug 7, 2011

Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.

DON’T YOU WANT FREEPERS TO SEE IT?


650 posted on 07/25/2012 5:00:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DONATE! fair dinkum!)
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To: Seizethecarp; David

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8&list=UUp5Mqb8hSKGI1hbk5ayzXXA&index=18&feature=plcp

here it is again...the creator of the video doesn’t appear to have morphed MX with the woman he indentifies as Val as you state...he’s showing the resemblance between zero and the woman he’s apparently under the impression is the mother of zero.
She’s an actress whose father was connected to The American University of Beirut, and a relative of the famous Seattle baby-sitter.


652 posted on 07/25/2012 5:11:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DONATE! fair dinkum!)
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