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To: spirited irish; betty boop; Thermopylae; AU72; YHAOS; marron; metmom; TXnMA; spunkets
Thank you so much for sharing your views, dear spirited irish!

The book of Enoch would agree that the offspring of the watchers (angels assigned to look after Adamic men) and women are the demons, i.e. that their bodies were destroyed in the Noah flood but their spirits continued to roam the earth, e.g.:

And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him. - Mark 1:34

However the watchers themselves are not roaming the earth according to Enoch and the New Testament references to Enoch - they are chained in darkness until the day of judgment:

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; - 2 Peter 2:4-5

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. - Jude 1:6

The watchers were not fallen angels according to Enoch, they were on assignment. But rather than looking after Adamic men, they taught him all sorts of things he was not to know, slept with the women creating bloody monsters, etc. Enoch's assignment was to plead on the watchers' behalf which he did and their main concern was for their offspring.

God's Name is I AM.

35 posted on 07/21/2012 10:35:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Not the original watchers, but others of their stature. J.R. Tolkien understood this to be true, hence by the close of the Silmallion, Morgoth (Lucifer) has been banished to outer darkness. By the start of the trilogy, Sauron-—a second level angel and Morgoth’s commander-in-chief so to speak-—takes up where Morgoth left off.

Lucifer’s legion is 1/3 of the pure spirit hierarchy. Those who are in chains are but a fraction of it.


39 posted on 07/22/2012 3:23:16 AM PDT by spirited irish
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