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United Nations Moving To Legalize Prostitution
America's Conservative News ^ | 07/25/2012 | America's Conservative News

Posted on 07/25/2012 12:37:40 AM PDT by ElIguana

First came the renewed effort to push the Law of the Sea Treaty. Then came the push to institute worldwide gun-control laws in violation of the 2nd Amendment. And now, believe it or not, the United Nations is pushing to legalize prostitution throughout the world.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bhoun; blogpimp; moralabsolutes; prostitution; unitednations

1 posted on 07/25/2012 12:37:49 AM PDT by ElIguana
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To: ElIguana

Get those pimps out of the USA.


2 posted on 07/25/2012 12:51:30 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

Who needs the U.N.? Prostitutes,queers,communists,islamofascists,abortionists and traitors. Decent,normal people don’t.


3 posted on 07/25/2012 12:55:51 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: ElIguana
And how many years has prostitution been legal in Nevada with few negative consequences?
Sovereign States. You know, 50 of them joined together in a Union yet capable of making their own laws as a Sovereign State!
4 posted on 07/25/2012 1:05:47 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ElIguana

When I clicked on the article I thought I was going to read the UN is moving out of NY to Amsterdam or Copenhagen where they could get legal prostitutes. My mistake, damn it.


5 posted on 07/25/2012 1:17:16 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: philman_36

State sovereignty won’t protect us from God’s judgment.

If a state is immoral enough to allow such perversion, the others will have to either reign them in or face the consequences.

“We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and true religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams


6 posted on 07/25/2012 1:46:38 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: ElIguana
From the UN report itself (page 43):

To ensure an effective, sustainable response to HIV that is consistent with human rights obligations:

3.2. Countries must reform their approach towards sex work. Rather than punishing consenting adults involved in sex work, countries must ensure safe working conditions and off er sex workers and their clients access to effective HIV and health services and commodities. Countries must:
3.2.1 Repeal laws that prohibit consenting adults to buy or sell sex, as well as laws that otherwise prohibit commercial sex, such as laws against “immoral” earnings, “living off the earnings” of prostitution and brothel-keeping. Complementary legal measures must be taken to ensure safe working conditions to sex workers.

3.2.2 Take all measures to stop police harassment and violence against sex workers.

3.2.3 Prohibit the mandatory HIV and STI testing of sex workers.

3.2.4 Ensure that the enforcement of anti-human-trafficking laws is carefully targeted to punish those who use force, dishonesty or coercion to procure people into commercial sex, or who abuse migrant sex workers through debt bondage, violence or by deprivation of liberty. Anti-human-trafficking laws must be used to prohibit sexual exploitation and they must not be used against adults involved in consensual sex work.

(etc)

Eliminate mandatory HIV/STI testing???? Are they INSANE???

7 posted on 07/25/2012 2:05:01 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: wagglebee; narses

y’all might be interested in this.


8 posted on 07/25/2012 2:14:18 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
...countries must ensure safe working conditions and off er sex workers and their clients access to effective HIV and health services and commodities...

In other words, taxpayers must ensure safe working conditions, etc.

9 posted on 07/25/2012 2:30:08 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (Scats for Newt!)
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To: philman_36
And how many years has prostitution been legal in Nevada with few negative consequences? Sovereign States. You know, 50 of them joined together in a Union yet capable of making their own laws as a Sovereign State!

That sounds dandy, but the UN could care less about that. They want us to nationalize & subsidize legal prostitution, all the while making access easier. I can only assume this also includes child prostitution, or including that is the next logical step for the UN.
I guess child prostitution should be up to the individual sovereign states as well.
10 posted on 07/25/2012 2:55:19 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: PastorBooks

So, let’s see if I understand. States are free to make their own laws unless you disagree, in which case they are no longer protected by the Constitution. Land of the Free indeed....


11 posted on 07/25/2012 3:10:48 AM PDT by Figure11 (There's nothing an agnostic can't do if he doesn't know whether he believes in it or not.)
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To: markomalley

How bizarre. Given the inherently risky nature of their work, I would have thought that mandatory STI/HIV testing was a no brainer. There are plenty of other professions that have a requirement for regular testing of some form or another for the safety of the public - why not this profession?

Sounds like another rainbows and unicorns pipe dream from a committee.


12 posted on 07/25/2012 3:11:07 AM PDT by Figure11 (There's nothing an agnostic can't do if he doesn't know whether he believes in it or not.)
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To: philman_36

Is it legal in Las Vegas?


13 posted on 07/25/2012 3:22:54 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ElIguana

Whenever I hear ‘consensual sex’ worker I know that the person stating such is an idiot. They don’t know prostitutes or the origins of their lives.


14 posted on 07/25/2012 3:24:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Figure11

“States are free to make their own laws unless you disagree, in which case they are no longer protected by the Constitution. Land of the Free indeed....”

No, not unless I disagree. Unless GOD disagrees.

Again: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams

The Constitution is not a license to rebel against the One Who moved those Founders to start this nation. He started us, and He can *finish us* if we rebel against Him.

The road of legalized prostitution, drugs, porn, “free sex” and every evil known to man only leads to tyranny. Not freedom.


15 posted on 07/25/2012 3:55:48 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: ElIguana

Stop financial support of the UN and
tell them to get out of the US.


16 posted on 07/25/2012 4:12:20 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Beware. Romney is also a liberal.)
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To: 1010RD

Actually no.


17 posted on 07/25/2012 4:33:49 AM PDT by ElIguana
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To: ElIguana

Tax it. license it, regulate it....Control it.


18 posted on 07/25/2012 4:39:31 AM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: ElIguana
legalize child slavery... wonderful
19 posted on 07/25/2012 4:56:52 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: PastorBooks
The state acting in the manner you deem moral won't protect anyone from Gods judgment. The state of our souls is dependent only on our own actions not that of the state. Further our constitution guarantees each individual freedom of religion, meaning that just because you deem something immoral, doesn't automatically give the state power to pass a law regarding it.
20 posted on 07/25/2012 5:23:44 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: PastorBooks
State sovereignty won’t protect us from God’s judgment.

It isn't God's judgement that I'm worried about with this.
I'm worried about man's tyranny upon their fellow man through intrusive government.

If a state is immoral enough to allow such perversion, the others will have to either reign them in or face the consequences.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Then we better get prepared for the consequences both as a nation and as individuals!
I see immorality from States today and nothing is done to them by the other States. Their immorality, as you like to call it, gets taken to the Federal level and it's then imposed upon the other States because they do nothing to or about the first State/s decision and because they don't exert their Sovereignty as and when needed against such Federal intrusion.

And again....how long has Nevada had prostitution?
Has one single State moved to "reign them in"?

Reality check there, Padre.

21 posted on 07/25/2012 5:48:35 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 1010RD
Is it legal in Las Vegas?
No. Only in certain counties. Too many people in Clark County.
Look it up with keywords "prostitution Nevada counties"
22 posted on 07/25/2012 5:54:20 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: brent13a
They want us to nationalize & subsidize legal prostitution, all the while making access easier.

They want us to bend to their will.
With the UN it's about control and the UN wants to be in control.

23 posted on 07/25/2012 5:58:37 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Durus

“The state of our souls is dependent only on our own actions not that of the state.”

True for individuals. But God also judges cities and nations.

“Further our constitution guarantees each individual freedom of religion...”

The Constitution is not the final, ultimate law. God’s word is. God does not run to the Constitution to see if something is right or wrong.

The Constitution ONLY has meaning for a moral people. When we forsake morality, we forsake the assumption of the Constitution that men will, for the most part, act morally. We are facing the consequences of a half-century of willful sin as a nation against Him. Fifty million aborted babies speak to our guilt.

“...just because you deem something immoral, doesn’t automatically give the state power to pass a law regarding it.”

Let me repeat, *I* am not judging anything. God is. God’s word is plain about this. Prostitution is a mortal sin. It is a path to a very real HELL.

God does not care if our Constitution “allows” sinful acts to be adopted as a question of state sovereignty. That is a twisted interpretation of that document. The Founders would have NEVER suggested that the Constitution gave states license to curse God and willfully rebel.

I say this to you, strongly: GOD LOVES YOU, AND YOU NEED TO START LISTENING TO HIM. ***PLEASE LISTEN!***


24 posted on 07/25/2012 5:59:07 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: brent13a
I can only assume this also includes child prostitution, or including that is the next logical step for the UN. I guess child prostitution should be up to the individual sovereign states as well.

This UN agreement is against child prostitution and wants it outlawed.....see section 3.2.5

25 posted on 07/25/2012 6:09:10 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1; philman_36
This UN agreement is against child prostitution and wants it outlawed.....see section 3.2.5

For now.
But as we all know massive government bureaucracy leads to the same old slippery slope. Once one is legalized, the others fight for the same legitimacy and 99% of the time they end up getting it.
If the UN wants to gently nudge our sovereign states to open the discussion under our Federal and State Constitutional powers then so be it. However, saying that we should bow to the UN because it sort of works for one state in the USA.....none of that makes sense.....the UN doesn't care about our Federal or State Constitutions nor our Federal or State sovereignty.
I don't understand how someone could endorse a libertarian ideal of state sovereignty but be OK having it's implementation forced by international fiat by a progressive international bureaucracy that has no respect for said sovereignty.
26 posted on 07/25/2012 6:24:47 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: PastorBooks
Our constitution is the written foundation of our country. It is a contract that sets forth the responsibilities of government, and enumerates the legitimate powers of government to fulfill those responsibilities. No where in the constitution does it suggest that the government has a mandate to make the people either moral or religious. Even a simpleton would realize that is not possible. It also doesn't include anything stating that the constitution is nullified if PastorBooks or John Adams decides something isn't moral or religious enough for them.

Worry about the souls of yourself and your flock if you are indeed a pastor. Our founders were wise enough to know that government was incapable of this duty.

Tyranny is always a danger. There was a time in our nation(speaking of the founders) when drugs, prostitution, gambling, and and porn were legal. We had just fought for freedom against the most power military on earth and we were free. Free to wallow in immorality or free to submit to the will of God. Now, a couple of hundred years later when most of these things are illegal, we are closer to tyranny that we have every been since our founding. This is in part due to people begging, pleading and cajoling government to take additional powers upon itself, that were never constitutionally enumerated to government for good reason, in order to further an agenda that doesn't include freedom. If this supra-constitutional meddling increased the power and scope of government past constitutional limits, then it brought us closer to tyranny. The motives of the people clamoring to be ruled or more appropriately, clamoring for power to rule others, are irrelevant.

More laws, more regulations, more government intrusion (either for or against morality) is not what we need. We need to hold the government to it's enumerated powers. We need to tell the UN to take a flying leap. We need to be more responsible for ourselves and let others do the same. This also doesn't mean we need to allow some UN scheme to regulate prostitution in our country. See UN; Flying leap.

27 posted on 07/25/2012 6:35:10 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: brent13a
However, saying that we should bow to the UN because it sort of works for one state in the USA.....none of that makes sense.....the UN doesn't care about our Federal or State Constitutions nor our Federal or State sovereignty.
Whoa there, butt-munch! I've not stated that we should bow to the UN in any manner.
You better reel that one back in.

I'm still saying "Screw the UN", just like I've been doing for many a year...and just like I did back in that 2001 comment.

I don't understand how someone could endorse a libertarian ideal of state sovereignty but be OK having it's implementation forced by international fiat by a progressive international bureaucracy that has no respect for said sovereignty.

That's okay, I do understand how somebody can make an incorrect assumption and statement based on their ignorance of a person's actual position.

28 posted on 07/25/2012 6:40:39 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Well holy geez, whoa, I didn't know I had impugned your delicate sensibilities enough to start some childish namecalling, of which I never initiated.

You originally posted up above:

And how many years has prostitution been legal in Nevada with few negative consequences?
Sovereign States. You know, 50 of them joined together in a Union yet capable of making their own laws as a Sovereign State!


That was posted by itself in what appears as a direct response to other posters questioning the UN's decision to issue such a decree to the world.
I guess I was just way out of line for assuming that you're blanket statement (that was put out there with no other context) was just you somehow aligning your libertarian viewpoints on prostitution and state sovereignty with the UN.
Obviously, now that I look back, there was much deeper meaning and contextual relevance to your original statement above. I mean, reading your original statement by itself directly after reading the OP's article obviously makes complete sense.
29 posted on 07/25/2012 7:11:08 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: PastorBooks
Prostitution is a mortal sin.
Verse, please.

Matthew 6:14-15 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Is fornication/prostitution a sin against you? Or is it just a stumbling block in your path?

Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.

30 posted on 07/25/2012 7:17:06 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: brent13a
I didn't know I had impugned your delicate sensibilities...
I don't have delicate sensibilities.

...some childish namecalling, of which I never initiated.
Childish comments are deserving of childish name calling.

What you did do was imply I said something that I hadn't.
That is what I took offense to.

Obviously, now that I look back...
And yet you took offense at my reaction (childish namecalling as you put it). Your actions, IMO, were worthy of much more and yet I refrained.
Are you a "roll over and take it" type who expects everyone else to react in the same manner?

31 posted on 07/25/2012 7:30:41 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PastorBooks
True for individuals. But God also judges cities and nations.

Do cities and nations have immortal souls?

The Constitution is not the final, ultimate law. God’s word is. God does not run to the Constitution to see if something is right or wrong.

The Constitution ONLY has meaning for a moral people. When we forsake morality, we forsake the assumption of the Constitution that men will, for the most part, act morally. We are facing the consequences of a half-century of willful sin as a nation against Him. Fifty million aborted babies speak to our guilt.

The constitution is the final ultimate law that governs civil society. That is the concern, and only concern of government.

The constitution has the exact same meaning regardless of the morality of the people. The constitution does not assume that men will act morally, that is why the powers of government were limited to those that were enumerated, why there is a separation of powers, and a why we have a bill of rights. I am not guilty of a half a century of willful sin, I am not guilty of racism, abortion, slavery, stealing land from Indians, imperialism, warmongering, homophobia, or any of the things people try to make me feel guilty about. I have enough sins of my own without taking any upon myself.

Let me repeat, *I* am not judging anything. God is. God’s word is plain about this. Prostitution is a mortal sin. It is a path to a very real HELL.

God does not care if our Constitution “allows” sinful acts to be adopted as a question of state sovereignty. That is a twisted interpretation of that document. The Founders would have NEVER suggested that the Constitution gave states license to curse God and willfully rebel.

The word of god as determined by PastorBooks infers no additional power to government. God will not judge us based on our obedience to secular law but by our obedience to His law. What exactly is and is not the power of the state is plainly outlined in the constitution. Period.

I say this to you, strongly: GOD LOVES YOU, AND YOU NEED TO START LISTENING TO HIM. ***PLEASE LISTEN!***

I know that God loves me and I am not sure why you feel the need to tell me that. Do you think you know my heart sir?

32 posted on 07/25/2012 12:30:43 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: philman_36

By that logic it shouldn’t be legal in America - too many people.


33 posted on 07/26/2012 4:22:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
By that logic it shouldn’t be legal in America - too many people.

It's 400,000 or more residents by county.
Not exactly shining a spotlight on it when you kick it to the sticks is it.

34 posted on 07/26/2012 7:54:26 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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