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What to do with $1000 right now…..
SEASONED CITIZEN PREPPER ^ | 8/6/12 | Rourke

Posted on 08/06/2012 7:34:33 PM PDT by Kartographer

A little while back I read a post over at IfItHitstheFan.comconcerning a recommendation on where to spend $900 on survival & preparedness preps. I love thinking about stuff like this. It is sorta like “What would I do if I won the lottery?”

Back to reality. There are many people across this great country that are just now seeing the light and beginning there preps. For many of these newcomers the question of where to begin is ever present. Some people are taking things serious and are willing to sink some serious change into their preparations – so I figured I would throw my 2 cents in. For someone relatively new to the prepping scene and having no purposely stocked supplies – a $1000 can go a long way. Here are my recommendations:

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Food ($350)

Water ($50)

Light ($50)

Medical/First Aid ($40)

Misc Household Supplies ($60)

Self-Defense ($200)

Alternative Power ($50)

Fuel ($50)

Knowledge ($)

Methods for Heating ($150)

1 posted on 08/06/2012 7:34:38 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 08/06/2012 7:35:52 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I’ve talked to hundreds of preppers over the last two years and many people who like me try and provide guidance to those who prep or starting to and the one comment I hear the most is that they have a ‘feeling’. These people are from all social, education and financial backgrounds. They say that there are demonstrable statistic that show that the number of people missing airline flights that end up crashing is higher than the average number of people that miss flights. I know myself there have been times when I have putted around doing this and that in the morning, which is unusual for me only to leave and find that a big wreck has taken place along my route to work. I say listen to that little voice in the back of you head, because there’s a good chance it knows what its’ talking about.

Something wicked this way comes, are you ready?

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


3 posted on 08/06/2012 7:39:58 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I would add a bicycle to any good prep.
Transportation and recon, quiet, efficient, can carry a load, just a smart buy.


4 posted on 08/06/2012 7:40:39 PM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: Kartographer

And a couple of bricks of .22 ammo to trade...


5 posted on 08/06/2012 7:42:14 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Kartographer

6 posted on 08/06/2012 7:42:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Kartographer

Chicken sandwiches for everyone at Chick-fil-A.


7 posted on 08/06/2012 7:44:36 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Kartographer

8 posted on 08/06/2012 7:47:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: sauropod

mark


9 posted on 08/06/2012 7:50:12 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Kartographer

I’d probably spend half of it on booze and chicks. Then I’d waste the rest.


10 posted on 08/06/2012 7:55:48 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: 2banana
And a couple of bricks of .22 ammo to trade...

Don't do it halfway.

I have had almost flawless performance in my Marlin 795 with Federal bricks of 550 @ $18.

12 for reserve and 6 for barter. That's 18 X $18 = $324. Cheap insurance.

11 posted on 08/06/2012 7:57:00 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: lysie

For later.


12 posted on 08/06/2012 7:57:56 PM PDT by lysie
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To: Kartographer

Most people don’t really understand how much canned food you can buy for $350.

This is survival, not dinner at the Ritz.

Canned chicken, corned beef, regular beef, green beans, corn and spinach; black beans, refried beans, and canned white potatoes. 25 pounds of rice. You’re set.

$350 will feed 2 people for a long time with those foods. Boring? yeah. Nourishing enough to live on, you bet.


13 posted on 08/06/2012 8:06:23 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Kartographer

The two most looted item during the LA riots are pictured about. I guess it is for some their idea for survival. But not a pretty though.
14 posted on 08/06/2012 8:10:25 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: Kartographer

The two most looted item during the LA riots are pictured abovr. I guess it is for some their idea for survival. But not a pretty though.
15 posted on 08/06/2012 8:11:01 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: Kartographer

Candles? What are the most economical. I was also looking at a water storage unit that’s easy to set up? Thanks.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 8:32:29 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: Kartographer

I keep a few hundred pounds of halite (rock salt) around. Good for melting ice in the driveway and if TSHTF, will preserve any meat one might aquire rather than letting it rot.

Dirt cheap as well.


17 posted on 08/06/2012 8:35:21 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: grumpygresh

As for water I recommend this set-up as being economical and effective:

Home Made Berkey Water Filter

http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/homemadeberkeydaire.htm


18 posted on 08/06/2012 8:36:34 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
what to do with $1000 right now..... Donate a bit to FR. Ba dump dump. BTTT.

should be a write off. I wonder if donations to media matters are?

19 posted on 08/06/2012 8:49:04 PM PDT by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Kartographer

Mark


20 posted on 08/06/2012 8:50:35 PM PDT by TXLady
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To: Kartographer

Bfl


21 posted on 08/06/2012 8:51:48 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Kartographer

it seems like it would depend on a lot of factors. I think I would dig a second well and install a hand pump.


22 posted on 08/06/2012 8:53:45 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: King_Corey
“I would add a bicycle to any good prep.
Transportation and recon, quiet, efficient, can carry a load, just a smart buy.”

That is a smart buy. Read accounts of the Japanese campaign in Malaysia or the British and Canadians in WWII. A bike greatly increased carrying capacity.

23 posted on 08/06/2012 9:03:00 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Kartographer

Spending money on preparedness supplies is a good thing.

However, I submit that part of preparedness is also getting out of debt as much as one can.

In the long run, you will have *more* money to put toward making preparations, if your finances are not also going to different banks, etc.


24 posted on 08/06/2012 9:16:58 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

That is true, but there can come a time when money can end up being worth only what you can buy with it, which can easily be not much. If you go to the store and the shelves are empty it won’t matter how much money you have.


25 posted on 08/06/2012 9:20:46 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

333.33$ each on bulk quanities of pinto beans, rice and .22 rimfire ammo.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 9:41:09 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Kartographer

True, but if you owe money to anyone, that person, according to the proverb, is your “master”, in a manner of speaking (”The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender” Proverbs 22:7)

I wouldn’t put it past our government officials to one day bring back debtors prisons or even promote enslavement of debtors in such a horrible situation. The totalitarian minded love debtors prisons and the like.

The return of such institutions is not beyond the realm of possibility given our current road towards authoritarianism.

What if a conservative is seized and sent to such an institution before the SHTF? His family is left with one less defender during a SHTF scenario.

I hope I’m wrong, but such things have happened before.


27 posted on 08/06/2012 9:44:33 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Kartographer

Heirloom seeds man. Don’t forget that.....


28 posted on 08/06/2012 10:59:11 PM PDT by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I was reading about how to cook with food storage and this person made a point of mentioning that meat should be used as a flavoring. This is not the way we cook now but it would make the meat go farther. I am trying to stock up on gravies, meat base, Lipton and Knorr soups and other flavorings to use with noodles, rice, pasta and other caloric meal stretchers. Most preppers love south of the border cooking. That is generally cheap. You can do a lot with ground corn or cornmeal. Buckets of corn (that you can grind) will last thirty years and it is cheap. Among other places, they have it at Sam's.
29 posted on 08/06/2012 11:34:45 PM PDT by goosie
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To: 2banana

You will not be trading ammo if the shtf. Seriously, think about it.


30 posted on 08/07/2012 12:24:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kartographer

One thing to consider when selecting foods to purchase is how much water is needed to cook them and what to do with that water after cooking. Pasta needs gallons of water while New England clam chowder neeeds none. Canned vegetables are canned in water - is it useable?

Water conservation and use will be the difference between life or death.


31 posted on 08/07/2012 12:43:22 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey
Canned vegetables are canned in water - is it useable?

Drink it as is, throw it in the soup pot, flavor rice or beans with it.


32 posted on 08/07/2012 2:00:04 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: NTHockey
Pasta needs gallons of water while New England clam chowder neeeds none.

Alternate pasta with other dishes that absorb water. Save the spaghetti water and use that when cooking your rice (instant mashed potatoes, oatmeal, grits, soup).

Also, I have a "30 day supply" of MREs, which consists of 90 MREs. At one per day shared among a family of four, that can add a lot of variety and nutrition to the other stored food for three months.

33 posted on 08/07/2012 2:52:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer

What would I buy with a thousand bucks?

I would buy a large rain barrel from Lowes. The 600-gallon one. Since I live in southwestern Washington State and we measure rainfall by the foot, getting water isn’t the problem. It is moving it that can be a bear, as we live on a ridge 1000 feet above the Columiba River.


34 posted on 08/07/2012 3:04:24 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: Kartographer

Within the last 3 weeks I have purchased 2 used coal stoves. 1 for the house, one for the cabin. Ducting, heatshield and coal come to about $1000. Both are wrapped up and put away for “just in case”

Been looking for a long term heating solution, was centered on propaine, but it is expensive, hard to store. Coal is messy, but very cheap, easy to store, and will burn all night with out attention. If a year goes by and I am out of coal I can burn wood.


35 posted on 08/07/2012 3:30:59 AM PDT by Harry Pothead (Go Sarah!)
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To: Kartographer

Cigars and bulk tobacco, when its made illegal to own people will pay anything for a smoke.


36 posted on 08/07/2012 3:45:58 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: goosie

When eating ramen noodles now, use only half the packet of seasoning and save the remaining half for the next batch of noodles. It tastes better and you won’t be eating so much salt. Before long, you’ll have saved up enough seasoning packages that you won’t need to buy extra for preps.


37 posted on 08/07/2012 3:53:32 AM PDT by bgill
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To: NTHockey
Canned vegetables are canned in water - is it useable?

Yes, it's called vegetable stock. Whenever I have freezer room, I keep a 3 lb. margarine tub to drain canned veggies into. When it's full, it's the perfect size for a pot of soup. Waste not, want not. Certainly, don't throw it out in a SHTF situation.

38 posted on 08/07/2012 4:02:02 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kartographer

An excellent link, thanks. Do you know how the filters are attached to the holes in the upper bucket?


39 posted on 08/07/2012 4:29:40 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: SatinDoll
I would buy a large rain barrel from Lowes.

Take care in how you plumb the thing.
Water off a shingle roof = not potable due to petroleum ingredients in the shingles.
Research filtration methods of catch water before using as other than gray water.

40 posted on 08/07/2012 5:22:49 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Mich Patriot

Correct you drill two holes in the bottom of the top bucket.

This might help:

DIY Berkey Survival Water Purification System! $AVE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYG_TLoI9O4&feature=related


41 posted on 08/07/2012 5:37:20 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Altariel

If they go that far what’s to keep them from just taking your money?

Again paying down your debt helps, but if you pay down debt only to have your money seized or end up being worthless? How much would the last can of beans on shelf, the last bottle of antibiotic, the last bottle of clean water be worth to you?

You have to cover all your bases or you could end up a well off person who in the end staved to death.

A quart of wheat could cost you a whole days wages. So what would my five gallons buckets of wheat be worth?

In the house of the wise are stores of choice food and oil, but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20


42 posted on 08/07/2012 5:48:54 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Eye of Unk

Something I’ve been thinking about is vacuum packing sacks of Bugle Boy (for those that don’t know it’s loose tobacco in a foil bag with cigarette papers)in canning jars for barter.


43 posted on 08/07/2012 5:52:31 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Steven Harris has some great recommendations for grid down emergency power here:
http://www.solar1234.com

This is stuff he’s tested, tried and true.


44 posted on 08/07/2012 5:55:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer

Perfect, thanks. I’ve never seen those filters and didn’t realize they attach with a nipple and nut.


45 posted on 08/07/2012 5:56:45 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: Kartographer

Design a battle pack like an MRE, tobacco, papers, matches all in a waterproof sealed pouch, small in size to be considered a monetary amount of an easy transaction.

Say make a three day package, a weeks package.


46 posted on 08/07/2012 5:57:01 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: grobdriver

What about if you have a metal roof?


47 posted on 08/07/2012 6:04:41 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Eye of Unk

Good idea. That’s why I like these ‘list’ style threads, the list itself may be bad or good, but the discussion gets people to thinking!


48 posted on 08/07/2012 6:05:34 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Come to Southern Utah!

Charles Muench Painting "Soaring"

49 posted on 08/07/2012 6:06:35 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Still needs to be purified.

Likely to have bird-droppings in it.


50 posted on 08/07/2012 7:09:33 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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