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Nugent Bets Bill O’Reilly $10,000 He Can NOT Buy a Machine Gun in 30 Days
Ammoland ^ | 10 August, 2012 | NA

Posted on 08/11/2012 7:23:09 AM PDT by marktwain

Louisiana --(Ammoland.com)- When it comes to guns, there is plenty of spin in Bill O’Reilly’s “No Spin Zone.” The zone has been infected with a bad case of yellow journalism.

Mr. O’Reilly is either woefully ignorant of the most basic of firearm laws, nomenclature, rules and requirements, or he has a clear anti-gun agenda and is a willing puppet for those who want to end the Second Amendment.

Mr. O’Reilly recently stated on his TV program, “The O’Reilly Factor,” that anyone in America can go out and buy a machine gun or bazooka without any reporting requirements at all.

Are you kidding me?

Nothing, of course, could be further from the truth. While owning machine guns is legal, it has been intensely restricted since 1934. There is a labyrinth of federal, state and local requirements one must comply with in order to own a fully automatic weapon, short-barreled rifle or sound suppressor.

I sent Bill a note and challenged him that I would donate $10,000 to the charity of his choice if anyone on his staff can go out and legally buy a machine gun or bazooka in the next 30 days without the federal government knowing about it. No word back yet from the “No Spin Zone” guy.

There are roughly 250,000 legally owned machine guns in America — half are owned by private citizens and the other half are owned by police departments. Since 1934, there have only been two homicides committed with legally owned machine guns. Leave it to the MotorCity Madman to give you the real “no-spin” truth regarding firepower in America.

Mr. No Spin Zone must surely be spinning now that the facts have revealed his ignorance or his intentional anti-gun spin. It makes a guy wonder what other information he has been spinning instead of telling his viewers the bold, honest truth.

Similar to the slew of left-wing anti-gun ideologues, Mr. O’Reilly is guilty as sin as it pertains to telling his viewers the truth about guns.

The truth it seems, however interesting, is apparently irrelevant to the media, including Mr. O’Reilly.

I’ve watched countless media windbags over the last 40 years either play fast and loose with the facts or overtly lie about guns to push an anti-gun agenda. That’s why all of the gun owners I know don’t trust the media when it comes to accurate information about guns.

The real truth about guns and crimes is simple to learn, which is why Mr. O’Reilly’s statements have more in common with his previous entertainment television gig “Inside Edition” than his vaunted “The O’Reilly Factor” on Fox.

Because of his woefully ignorant statements or his anti-gun beliefs, I’ll be much more suspicious of anything Mr. O’Reilly says.

Americans are owed the truth by our media. They are supposed to be the fourth arm of society, the watchdogs of our government. When we can’t trust the media (and there are ample reasons to not trust them), then it is even more incumbent upon us to dig deep and learn the truth about any number of issues.

Let’s see just how big a man Mr. O’Reilly is and whether he tells his viewers that he and his crack staff of researchers got it all wrong, as wrong as wrong can be. Let’s see how he tries to spin himself and his staff out of this balderdash.

Mr. O’Reilly has been caught red-handed in a web of ignorance or falsehood. Until he comes clean, I suggest watching his program with a jaundiced eye. I’m sure even Mr. O’Reilly knows that once his credibility with his audience is gone, the gig is up.

Ted Nugent is an American rock ‘n’ roll, sporting and political activist icon. He is the author of “Ted, White, and Blue: The Nugent Manifesto” and “God, Guns & Rock ‘N’ Roll” (Regnery Publishing).


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To: Figment

I upped the anty


41 posted on 08/11/2012 12:09:24 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: marktwain

I know who TED NUGENT is.

But who is Bill O’Reilly ?

Is he the mascot for an auto parts store ?


42 posted on 08/11/2012 12:11:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Help. How do I put something in my tagline.)
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To: marktwain

BOR is a POS.


43 posted on 08/11/2012 12:15:31 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: marktwain

“woefully ignorant “ is quite correct in Oreilly’s case. I used to try to correct him on a variety of stuff but it was hopeless and I haven’t watched him in years. For a guy who claims to be neutral refusing to learn puts the lie to that. I guess “neutral “= “ignorant”.


44 posted on 08/11/2012 12:34:12 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: marktwain

FUBO & FUBO!


45 posted on 08/11/2012 12:41:19 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marktwain

“Yet in 1986, the anti-freedom forces made it illegal to manufacture or import any more machine gun for citizens of the U.S”.

Just a couple of relevant points. Unfortunately for us regular citizens, the restrictions DO NOT apply to the military or law enforcement agencies.

If I understand the rules, citizens of this country now are restricted from owning any “new” machine gun manufactured after 1986. Anyone with a knowledge of the limited number of available guns will know that the prices are going through the roof.

Not only is the supply limited, and the price now prohibitive, but every day that goes by the citizenry of this country are losing ground to those who will ultimately be able to fully enslave the nation through the barrel of the gun.

Of course there are some issues financial that might take some precedence over repeal of the NFA, but when those are solved, the NFA needs to go.


46 posted on 08/11/2012 12:45:24 PM PDT by wita
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To: marktwain
Do a sting operation on BOR so you set him up to buy a Class III gun to prove his point. When he shows up with the cash, bust him for purchase of a machine gun in violation of the 1934 NFA. Send BOR to the federal pokey for 10 years and a huge fine. While he's in Club Fed, BOR can report about life in prison. Best part is BOR comes out a felon and can't vote or own a gun.
47 posted on 08/11/2012 12:46:06 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: jesseam

Whew. Good grief. That does sound bad.


48 posted on 08/11/2012 1:23:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: marktwain

Heck I could make an SKS fire off its full magazine, but it won’t stop till its run dry.

And I have the plans to fabricate from scratch a chain gun with a rotating multi barrel. basically a simple powered gatling gun.


49 posted on 08/11/2012 1:26:35 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Vote for Sarah Palin, she is the cure to the disease and infection of socialism.)
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To: marktwain

Bill O’Reilly sux blarney stones!


50 posted on 08/11/2012 4:25:45 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Lx
How hard would it be and how much time would it take for O’Reilly to get a federal license?

If he does that, doesn’t that make him eligible to buy a machine gun legally?

You do not need a "license" to purchase a Class III weapon (short barreled rifle, short barreled shotgun, fully automatic rifle or pistol, sound suppressor, 'destructive device' (rifled barrel over .50 cal), or 'any other weapon' (catch all category for things like cane guns, palm guns, zip guns, holsters that stay on a gun while firing and look like a wallet, &c.)). A dealer selling these items needs a Class III Federal Firearms License before he can sell these items. A Buyer of these items does NOT need an FFL of any type to engage in purchasing such items.

If you want to buy lets say a short barreled, fully automatic/semiautomatic (select fire) rifle with a sound suppressor, you must contact a dealer in such items and negotiate a price. It would be best if the dealer's place of business was in your State of residence (more later). Once you have agreed upon a price you send him a check and he will hold your purchase while you get authorization from the BATFE for the transfer of your purchase.

You must download a BATFE Form 4 from their website and fill in the 'purchaser' details. You then go to your local police and get a mug shot and fingerprint card produced and probably a background check, all of which you will pay for. After acquiring all the background documentation you present your Form 4 to the chief law enforcement officer of you county/parish of residence for approval (or not, it's up to the chief LEO, no appeal). This officer is usually the Sheriff or a designated deputy. If you are granted approval you must acquire a $200.00 certified check or money order ($5.00 for 'any other weapon', no kidding) to cover the Federal Excise Tax on you purchase. These 'tax rates' have not changed since 1934, of course back then a brand new 'tommy gun' cost you about $75.00 at the local hardware store so I guess it's all relative.

Now we are getting close... Pack up all your paperwork, photo, fingerprints, check, and Form 4 and forward them by registered mail to the dealer holding your purchase. He will add to the Form the serial number of your new weapon, his name and place of business and signature. He will then forward the completed Form 4 to a BATFE examiner for processing. The first (local) background check was to make the Sheriff happy. The ATF will do another, more through check to determine if you are clean will take anywhere from six weeks to months (don't pester them as that just gets them cranky!). If you pass muster, they will send your Form 4 with the Excise Tax stamp attached to your dealer who will then contact you and arrange for you to pick up your shiny new toy (you must do this personally). This is true only if you are both within the boundaries of a single state. If you bought from an out of state dealer, you will have to arrange a transfer from your out of state dealer to another Class III FFL holder in your state. You will be charged for this service.

Just a few more details, if you take your new weapon to the range (actually anywhere away from your residence) you must carry the Form 4 w/ the Tax Stamp. You may not take your weapon across state lines. You must notify the BATFE if you move. If you move out of state you must contact the BATFE first for instructions to avoid legal problems.

One last thing, remember you purchased a short barreled, fully automatic/semiautomatic rifle with a sound suppressor. The ATF considers a short barrel (under 18") a weapon, it also considers full auto a weapon, sound suppressor yep, a weapon. So you need three ATF Form 4s to cover your purchase, as well as $600.00 in excise taxes.

If you still want to pursue Class III weapons there are legal alternatives to mug shots, fingerprints, Chief LEO sign-off, and background check. They cost a fair amount of money and I'm getting tired of typing. Hint: The ATF regulates the sale of Class III weapons to individuals. In the eyes of the law, LLC Corporations & Revocable Trusts are individuals and may be constructed to hold your tangible assets for you. Please consult people who know what they are doing before venturing further, LegalZoom.com is out of their league, you have been warned!

Regards,
GtG

51 posted on 08/11/2012 4:31:02 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Figment

That says a lot about Harvard and very little about 0’Reilly.


52 posted on 08/17/2012 7:38:51 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Elle Bee

My apologies to the chimp. I didn’t mean to insult him.


53 posted on 08/17/2012 7:42:09 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
no problem, everyone makes that mistake with BORe ... ha

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54 posted on 08/17/2012 12:27:59 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Rio

Such “easy” conversions are DANGEROUS. They either force or risk runaway slamfires.

Such “easy” conversions are ILLEGAL. PERIOD. You’re looking at 10 years prison and $250,000 fine.

Whole lot easier, cheaper, and safer to buy an existing one thru proper BATFE channels. Figure about $5000, and a couple month’s paperwork processing & comprehensive background check.


55 posted on 08/17/2012 12:36:27 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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