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Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?
Daily Caller ^ | 9:40 AM 08/17/2012 | Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.)

Posted on 08/18/2012 8:48:02 PM PDT by null and void


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The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S.  No one has yet said what the purpose of these purchases is, though we are led to believe that they will be used only in an emergency to counteract and control civil unrest. Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.

What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.

Potentially each hollow nose bullet represents a dead American. If so, why would the U.S. government want the SSA to kill 174,000 of our citizens, even during a time of civil unrest? Or is the purpose to kill 174,000 of the nation’s military and replace them with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) special security forces, forces loyal to the Administration, not to the Constitution?

All my life I’ve handled firearms. When a young boy growing up on my father’s farm in Pennsylvania Dad’s first rule of firearms training was, “Never point a gun at someone, in fun or otherwise, unless you intend to shoot them. If you shoot someone, shoot to kill.” I’ve never forgotten his admonition. It stayed with me through my Boy Scout training, when I enlisted in the army as a Private to fight in the Korea
War, during my days as a Ranger and Paratrooper and throughout my thirty-four year military career.

If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets.  These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen. Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.

I fear that Congress won’t take these ammunition purchases seriously until they are all led from Capitol Hill in handcuffs. Why buy all this ammunition unless you plan to use it. Unknown to Congress, Does DHS plan to declare war on some country? Shouldn’t Congress hold hearings on why the Administration is stockpiling this ammunition all across the nation? How will it be used; what are the Administration’s plans?

Obama is a deadly serious, persistent man. Once he focuses on an object, he pursues it to the end. What is his focus here? All of these rounds of ammunition can only be used to kill American citizens, though there is enough ammunition being ordered to kill, in addition to every American citizen, also every Iranian, Syrian or Mexican. There is simply too much of it. And this much ammunition can’t be just for training, there aren’t that many weapons and “shooters” in the U.S. to fire it. Perhaps it is to be used to arm illegal immigrants?

We have enough military forces to maintain law and order in the U.S. even during times of civil unrest.

We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. So in addition to all these forces why does DHS need its own private army? Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?

Were I the JCS, and if I wasn’t already fully briefed on this matter, I’d stop the purchase of hollow point bullets, ask the secretary of Defense why all this ammunition is being purchased and spread around the country? If I got answers like the ones Congress got during the investigation of Operation Fast and Furious – I’d start tracking all ammunition deliveries nationwide to find out what organizations and units are using them, for what purpose and, if it is not constitutional, prepare to counteract whatever it is that they are doing.

This is a deadly serious business. I hope I’m wrong, but something smells rotten. And If the Congress isn’t going to do its duty and investigate this matter fully, the military will have to protect the Constitution, the nation, and our citizens.

Jerry Curry is a decorated combat veteran, Army Aviator, Paratrooper, and Ranger, who for nearly forty years has served his country both in the military and as a Presidential political appointee.


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To: dirtboy

Thanks for your posts- the explanations make sense to me.

What really distresses me is that because of the leadership we have in Washington it is EASY to believe these purchases could be part of some darker plan.


161 posted on 08/19/2012 5:09:57 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: marsh2
.357 is not necked down .40 caliber cases. If one were to neck down .40 in the attempt to make .357sig cases they would find it's too short.

Further .357Sig isn't quite the ballistic equivalent of .357 Magnum and last I checked .357 Magnum wasn't penetrating vests.

I'm all for people contacting their Senator or Congressman, but let's not sound as ignorant as the typical media flunky that calls everything a "AK47".

162 posted on 08/19/2012 5:56:57 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

No one said you have to live in Ardland.


163 posted on 08/19/2012 7:28:54 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: null and void

That’s not the whole picture, and the full one has been posted here a couple of times.


164 posted on 08/19/2012 7:48:23 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: wastedyears

So sue me.


165 posted on 08/19/2012 7:53:15 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1308 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Durus

I got the e-mail from a personal friend who is a retired federal LE still well connected on the national level. Both he and his association of retired LEs are concerned about the purchases and composed the letter. That sends off huge alarm bells in my mind.


166 posted on 08/19/2012 9:26:57 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: null and void

I’m not one of the various people that have been attacking you on this thread. No reason to get angry with me.


167 posted on 08/19/2012 9:31:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: wastedyears

Ooops the smilie didn’t post. Sorry.


168 posted on 08/19/2012 9:34:29 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1308 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void

Please add me to your ping list!


169 posted on 08/19/2012 9:38:24 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Why else a stash of that size?”

The ‘stash’ of the beaurocracy, including this, is nothing compared to that the ‘army’ of ‘America’s hunters etc.’


170 posted on 08/19/2012 9:41:23 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: marsh2
That’s how it is done. There is even a bill going through the legislature right now to cut out the DA and the local courts in prosection of “offenders.” It sets up expanded DFG administrative authority to issue large fines without a trial, cross examination etc.

Hm, if it passes: 18 USC 241, 18 USC 242, and 1983 prosecutions should all be perused. (That's felony, felony, civil.)

171 posted on 08/19/2012 9:41:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SE Mom
What I’d really like to see are the tactical plans of dealing with “civil unrest”..

Tactics aren't where you need to be concerned: wars are won with logistics.

172 posted on 08/19/2012 9:45:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: riri

No.

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...


173 posted on 08/19/2012 9:52:32 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1308 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: OneWingedShark

AB 2179

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_2151-2200/ab_2179_bill_20120525_amended_asm_v96.html

analysis
http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/Bills/AB_2179/20112012/

status
http://legiscan.com/gaits/view/405502


174 posted on 08/19/2012 10:22:56 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2

I’m concerned too but that doesn’t mean that factually incorrect letters should be sent out to congress. If the letter displays ignorance it really detracts from the over all message.


175 posted on 08/20/2012 4:29:58 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: null and void; riri
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

That's because the list is itself a conspiracy. ;)

176 posted on 08/20/2012 8:23:40 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark; riri

It’s a bit metaphysical, I know, but it’s the only fair way. </The Inquisitor></obscure Red Dwarf reference>


177 posted on 08/20/2012 9:03:34 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1309 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void

LOL — I loved Red Dwarf.
The English can still do comedy without it having to be vulgar — something that seems to be rather rarefied in a lot of our media.

“You’re going to breed horses with a sheep and a cow?”


178 posted on 08/20/2012 9:11:22 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Why aren’t you on the Red Dwarf ping list?


179 posted on 08/20/2012 9:38:39 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1309 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void
Why aren’t you on the Red Dwarf ping list?

There's a Red Dwarf ping-list? I can't imagine it's very high-volume...

180 posted on 08/20/2012 11:22:01 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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