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FoxNews claims Obamacare punishes hospitals if their patients with heart failure live instead of die
wordpress ^ | August 23, 2012 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 08/23/2012 8:52:05 PM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle; justiceseeker93

Since they are writing the rules as they go any thing is possible.

To many repeat visits to your doctor could be next, or routine tests they order every 3-6 months to monitor the meds you are on.

Then you have the hypochondriac, the drug addict, etc that use the hospital a lot more than most people. And all the illegals using it as a doctors office. But instead of punishing them, it is the hospital that will be punished.

Some of this is from 1 day surgeries on high risk seniors who should stay the night at least for monitoring, but Medicare nor secondary ins. does not cover it.

Medicare has a set number of days for any illness you are admitted for and many are sent home before they are ‘ready’ to go home. And end up back in rather quickly.

A step down facility would be more the answer to this issue that was less expensive, but would provide monitoring better, one would think. Sort of a half way hospital setting, not a nursing home or Hospice setting.

So you punish the hospital or doctor for the situation Medicare and Congress has created instead of the fixing the issues by thinking outside the traditional box.


21 posted on 08/24/2012 6:04:40 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: DManA

“I really think they should come up with a different name for the condition. First time I heard it I thought if their hearts failed why are they still alive?”

You are absolutely correct. Dumb name for the condition. Many people don’t understand what it really is...
I describe it as trying to blow up a balloon underwater. The fluids around the heart make it difficult for the heart to function - the heart isn’t failing...it’s been “squished” by fluids around it. (of course there’s other conditions that cause it too)

Your wife must be a saint dealing with people who won’t follow the medical advice on diet and salt!!


22 posted on 08/24/2012 6:16:33 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: DManA

Well when the death panels kick in that won’t be a problem anymore, they will be denied treatment.


23 posted on 08/24/2012 6:19:44 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: grundle; conservativegramma; Conservativegreatgrandma; eeevil conservative; SunkenCiv; Impy; ...

Not surprising, especially with the Obama Administration. Medicare has been chiseling away on doctor and hospital reimbursement for decades. The Medicare cuts integral to Obamacare are predictably accelerating the process. Anytime you have government rationing of health care, you almost inevitably run into perverse monetary incentives encouraging death as opposed to prolonging life.


24 posted on 08/24/2012 6:34:47 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

I think she would say the BEST part of the job is dealing with the people.


25 posted on 08/24/2012 6:39:09 AM PDT by DManA
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thre was a story (quoted on FR) about British hospitals that were being judged on the basis of the speed with which patients were moved thru the ER. Therefore, they were being held in their ambulances too long, and the in-ambulance death rate went up. But, that metric was not being judged by NHS.


26 posted on 08/24/2012 6:44:50 AM PDT by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: crz
Oh and BTW. Abortions are not counted either. Since the baby was never “Born” they arent counted. Then they claim a lower infant mortality rate.

Outside the US, for very premature babies, they are often counted as miscarriages and no care is even attempted.

27 posted on 08/24/2012 6:48:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: chuckles
Medicare only pays for 21 days in the hospital and when she got out, she wasn't going back. The nursing home was the 3rd step in the killing process to drain all your funds so you will get Medicaid. She didn't survive that.

My mom went through that, too.

This is why it's very important for the elderly to do financial planning, and get major assets out of their name BEFORE they get sick.

28 posted on 08/24/2012 6:55:56 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


29 posted on 08/24/2012 4:33:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: justiceseeker93

I’ve found out the hard way when you go into a hospital setting to take bleach wipes, cell phones, and have a relatives who can be with the person in the hospital 24 hrs a day and know enough about medical care to see to it that the person who is in the hospital gets the needed care and to watch the meds they are given like a hawk. And to have enough legal knowledge to know when your relative us being given poor treatment, lack of treatment or getting screwed.

Hospitals are short of nursing staff and full of germs, it is bad enough during the day, even worse at night. ER’s have become so slow they might as well be Minor Meds, even the private ones.


30 posted on 08/25/2012 1:51:23 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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