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By Focusing on the Economy, We Are Ignoring Much Bigger Problems
Patriot Post ^ | 8/30/12 | joanie-f

Posted on 09/01/2012 6:37:39 PM PDT by joanie-f

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1 posted on 09/01/2012 6:37:41 PM PDT by joanie-f
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2 posted on 09/01/2012 6:40:27 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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Personally, I would like to see the size and power of the federal government drastically, drastically cut back. This would mean a lot of layoffs. Major unemployment. Not just government civil servants -- people at Lockheed, Cisco, Ford, you name it. If the US budget got cut about $2T a year it would have a major economic impact on this country. In the short term, it would be unbelievably painful.

But it would be worth it.

3 posted on 09/01/2012 6:42:00 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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Let me add that this is why I have a problem with Paul Ryan. Barack Obama has been having annual deficits of $1.5T -- and Ryan's "draconian" plan is to cut $50B a year for 10 years.

Not even close, Paul. Not a serious effort. At all.

4 posted on 09/01/2012 6:44:08 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: joanie-f

The two are intertwined. All that nannydom is expensive.


5 posted on 09/01/2012 6:47:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: joanie-f

There’s the 30 million plus illegals in America who are enough to create some 50 new congressional districts and all the costs incurred by those districts. The illegals don’t even need to vote to create those districts.


6 posted on 09/01/2012 6:47:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: joanie-f

We are living the easiest life that man has ever enjoyed. Our life expectancy exceeds, by far, the average that humans have experienced throughout history...and listen to us bitch. Yes, many of us are shallow and short-sighted. But it is the individual that is to blame...or not. Happiness occurs between the ears, make of life what you will.


7 posted on 09/01/2012 6:47:19 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That pushes the limit of the politically possible, unfortunately. To go on a diet for ten years and by it lose a third of your weight seems feeble. But anything much more drastic and the bums will revolt and kill you.


8 posted on 09/01/2012 6:49:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: joanie-f
Our biggest issue is we have justified the evolution of our tolerance to apathy in the name of not offending anyone. We have tolerated the growth of government (or loss of liberty), tolerated the criminalization of our national heritage and adopted foreign rule (including Islamic law).

Think back to the 1500's, imagine the courage, determination and self reliance it took to travel here with nothing but your own wits. Where did it go?
Imagine if we were faced with the same Revolutionary situation as the 1700's. Would we/could we do it?
9 posted on 09/01/2012 6:53:18 PM PDT by vet7279
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To: joanie-f
(1) our dramatic loss of personal liberty, (2) the erosion of our national sovereignty, and (3) the threat of radical Islam to our very survival as a people.

All three of these have much to do with the economic malaise the Obama administration (and Bush before Obama) has caused in America. A weak America is a vulnerable America. Getting the economy on the right track BY DEFINITION, means a drastic cut in government spending and taxation. This begins to right the issues of personal liberty, national sovereignty, and threats to our country.

Don't take your eye off the ball. Obama wants and loves Big Government. Big Government is the cause of big economic woes. We defeat Obama by by hammering on his sad record of national financial and economic disaster. And by cutting government spending and taxes, we become an economically strong nation again. A strong America can handle those three problems you listed.

10 posted on 09/01/2012 6:55:37 PM PDT by PapaNew
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11 posted on 09/01/2012 6:57:55 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ve read your and the other comments to this post.

Either you and most of your fellow commenters did not read this post or you are blithering idiots. The comments had nothing to do with the essence of the post.


12 posted on 09/01/2012 6:58:27 PM PDT by No_Way_A_Liberal
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To: HiTech RedNeck
To go on a diet for ten years and by it lose a third of your weight seems feeble.

With respect, that mis-states the situation.

Obama has had 3 years of annual deficits of $1.5T. That's $6T is deficits, total US debt of $15T. If we go on a diet of $50B a year for 10 years, then, at best, we lose $500B, or about 2% of the debt.

The diet analogy of like have 50 extra pounds, dieting for 10 years, and ending up being only 49 pounds over weight. And doing that AS A PLAN. That was the GOAL. Let's call it victory.

13 posted on 09/01/2012 6:58:55 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: No_Way_A_Liberal

If the government were starved for cash, it could not be tyrannical, our traditional way of life would be restored. And if the government would just back off, we could be energy independent and Islam would become insignificant.


14 posted on 09/01/2012 7:01:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: joanie-f

Self reliance will actually become even more important as the governmement expands its size and power and reach into our personal lives. Like an an enormous parasite eating its host, the government will cause the private sector to shrink, resulting in wealth contraction. Although the welfare dependent and favored union classes might see more relative income re-distribution, the total pie will shrink and everyone will have less. People will need to become better at fixing things, growing things, and defending themselves.


15 posted on 09/01/2012 7:03:15 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: ClearCase_guy

No just lay off the ones at the irs and epa, ect and pay the congress for one months work .thats all they really do and we dont need them the rest of the year.


16 posted on 09/01/2012 7:05:39 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: vet7279
I couldn't agree more. That is precisely why I referred to the pioneers moving west in small covered wagons at the beginning of the article. We have fallen so far from that kind of rugged individualism, and it is that fall that has resulted in the beleaguered state of our republic today.

We're a nation of whiners who, for the most part, have no clue regarding the personal courage and monumental sacrifice that were the essence of life in the early part of our republic's history. We complain about 'essentials' that our forebears did without, while we ignore those genuine essentials (liberty, sovereignty, the rule of law, free markets ... ) that created the propsperity that has for so long spoiled us into accepting affluence, apathy and indifference as a way of life.

17 posted on 09/01/2012 7:05:41 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

You are absolutely right! Good post.


18 posted on 09/01/2012 7:06:51 PM PDT by Em and Brets Mum ("Lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." - Proverbs 20:15)
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To: joanie-f

1 and 2 quite agree.

3 not so much. You are mixing up intentions and capabilities.

Radical Islamists have every intent of destroying America. They have, however, no capability of doing so, and no realistic scenario by which they can acquire such capability.

What is the mechanism by which you think Islam will destroy us as a people?


19 posted on 09/01/2012 7:07:49 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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Maybe we should take his retirement pay to help get some of that back and maybe any new accounts he has when he leaves office


20 posted on 09/01/2012 7:08:12 PM PDT by dalebert
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