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By Focusing on the Economy, We Are Ignoring Much Bigger Problems
Patriot Post ^ | 8/30/12 | joanie-f

Posted on 09/01/2012 6:37:39 PM PDT by joanie-f

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To: dalebert

My congressman introduced legislation that would require he and his colleagues to spend no less than 20 days in their districts. Naturally his colleagues decided they’re too busy spending money to do something like that.


21 posted on 09/01/2012 7:08:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, Uncle Sam does need to come closer to losing a third of the debt over a decade. Let states manage their own affairs, as they can compete for residents. It’s not possible to do that when there is only one Uncle Sam.

If I were king, I would come up with a nannydom rating — unproductive or antiproductive meddling — for every US government effort, and start cutting if not eliminating the nanniest programs first. That is hurting the ability of the people to prosper. A prosperous people would furnish more absolute revenue in taxes — the familiar Laffer curve peak.


22 posted on 09/01/2012 7:09:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Can’t argue with that!


23 posted on 09/01/2012 7:10:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: cripplecreek

Well as Mr.Eastwood said..they work for us...Maybe we should remind them.


24 posted on 09/01/2012 7:13:06 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: gorush

Because our lives are becoming void of the things that make life worth living. Good carpeting, great food, and a nice car, don’t feed the soul, it doesn’t replace the sense of being a conquered tribe, a disappearing people as we watch centuries of hard earned advancement and growth, turned into looted husks, and burned out shells, all to be forgotten soon.

I would rather be living in poverty in the past when American eyes glittered with the meaning and the hope of life, with national pride, with faith in their fellow American and a spiritual awareness that we were a special people, and that it was our time in history, and that we were part of a culture that was literally marching to the stars, and that we could save the less free, the non-westernized corners of the world, not that we would be colonized, and eventually erased by them.


25 posted on 09/01/2012 7:14:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: dalebert
Maybe we should remind them.

Looks to me like most FReepers are busy showing them that we'll do whatever we're told.
26 posted on 09/01/2012 7:17:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sherman Logan
What is the mechanism by which you think Islam will destroy us as a people?

There are two ways in which Islam could bring America to her knees:

(1) Through the acquisition of chemical/biological/nulcear agents/weapons -- all of which can be brought across our porous borders. There is no need for strategic weaponry to deliver these mass destructive agents.

(2) Political correctness consistently prevents us from discussing the potentially devastating effects of Muslim infiltration of our society. But all we need do is take a serious look at England, France and the rest of Europe to see where our future lies. We, as Americans, have a short attention span. To radical Islam, a hundred years is the blink of an eye, as long as their goals are eventually met.

27 posted on 09/01/2012 7:18:57 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: cripplecreek

Sorry...I make all my own decisions. My mom told me to.


28 posted on 09/01/2012 7:19:40 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ansel12

Amen.


29 posted on 09/01/2012 7:21:47 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Thanks (and love the movie). :)
30 posted on 09/01/2012 7:23:19 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: ansel12

Better a free poor man than a rich man in chains.


31 posted on 09/01/2012 7:27:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: joanie-f

I think “Kane” is the greatest movie ever made.

People are still trying to figure out how Welles got some of the shots he did.


32 posted on 09/01/2012 7:29:35 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
I think “Kane” is the greatest movie ever made.

Agreed. I've probably seen it a dozen times.

33 posted on 09/01/2012 7:31:23 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

What about skyrocketing economic growth? I’m in the sportfish market and we are projecting 30 to 50% growth year over year the next 10 years if we can just get predictability in the tax code. If the socialists knew how much income would be created by a flat tax or national sales tax they would crawl up a gnats ass to make it happen.


34 posted on 09/01/2012 7:35:26 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: ansel12

>>I would rather be living in poverty in the past

That’s the funny thing about “poverty” in modern America. The poor today live with more luxuries than I had as a child in a 1970’s middle class family with a blue collar dad and stay-at-home mom. Even with Jimmy Carter’s malaise, we were happy with what we had.


35 posted on 09/01/2012 7:38:04 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: joanie-f
The two are intertwined. A cursory look at Alexander Hamilton’s Report On Manufactures shows that the two cannot be separated.
Not only the wealth, but the independence and security of a country, appear to be materially connected with the prosperity of manufactures. Every nation, with a view to those great objects, ought to endeavor to possess within itself all the essentials of national supply. These comprise the means of subsistence, habitation, clothing and defense.
Therefore, if the economic problems are not solved, neither will the problems of defense of the country from enemies both without and within.

For the record, World War II’s cost to the USA in 2012 dollars was about $4.5 trillion. And we had our means of subsistence, habitation, clothing and defense contained within ourselves. Quite a different situation today. Not saying that it cannot be reversed, but another factor that is also different from today is the remarkable faithlessness of the general populace compared to that generation, albeit absent in a lot of the leadership; but that lack thereof in the leadership did “trickle down” to use a term that the liberals like to deride. All lessons need to be learned . . . none can be ignored.
36 posted on 09/01/2012 7:38:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Sherman Logan

What is the mechanism by which you think Islam will destroy us as a people?
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the Muslim Brotherhood, has laid this out,
in very detailed specific plans,
that were captured in law enforcement raids.
(and i’ve personally heard similar things,
INSIDE the masjid)
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i have links (mostly from others like Bayouranger),
to this, in my profile.
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and France alone, has about 10 million Muslims,
living at taxpayer expense, in what are virtually independent Muslim colonies.
seems like the plan is working pretty well.


37 posted on 09/01/2012 7:39:44 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sherman Logan

Don’t say “no capability”. Especially since Iran is building their nuclear umbrella with complete impunity, and Hezbollah has been sneaking over the Mexican border with equal impunity for ages.


38 posted on 09/01/2012 7:40:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: joanie-f

ABC weaponry can certain do great damage. Though deploying them effectively is not really that easy.

But your claim was not that they would hurt us, but that they would destroy us as a people. Even a dozen nukes set off in our major cities could not come close to “destroying” us, not even to the extent of defeating us militarily.

It would no doubt piss us off, and Islamists around the world would quickly discover that their major military asset has been our unwillingness to be “mean.”

In this regard, I recommend “Caliphate,” a dystopic novel by Tom Kratman, where this is essentially what has happened. It doesn’t turn out well for the ragheads.

http://www.tomkratman.com/asod.html

The single method by which they could, in theory, destroy our society is by developing a true super-plague biological weapon. But it of course would also destroy their societies.

Muslims are infiltrating our society, and many of them have evil intent. But it is also a fact that many of their young people are seduced by our society, making any inter-generational conquest problematic.

In any case, Muslims cannot conquer us unless we quite allow them to. IOW, they aren’t capable of murdering us, although we are quite capable of committing suicide.

A. Lincoln at the age of 28: “ At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/lyceum.htm

If Abe was correct, as I firmly believe, then it is foolish to waste effort obsessing about imaginary external threats. Our problems are internal, as are their solutions.


39 posted on 09/01/2012 7:42:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: liberty or death
The very idea that someone is successful by their own ingenuity and hard work is anathema to socialists.They will do everything in their power to ruin such people even if they themselves are harmed in the process.
40 posted on 09/01/2012 7:42:34 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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