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Fannie Mae MBS Spread to 10 year Treasuries GOES NEGATIVE!
Confounded Interest ^ | 09/26/2012 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 09/26/2012 1:25:34 PM PDT by whitedog57

QE3 certainly has wreaked havoc on the agency mortgage-backed securities market. The Fannie Mae 30 year current coupon (rate to MBS investors on new Fannie MBS) spread over 10 year Treasures has gone NEGATIVE! As in -3.65 basis points.

But if we compare the Fannie 30 year current coupon to 5 year Treasury yields, we have a positive yield spread of about 100 basis points.

Meanwhile, Fannie Mae 3.5 MBS duration just went negative!

So, The Fed’s QInfinity has really done a number on MBS yields … and risk. MBS investors may be lining up to dump agency MBS on The Fed. Particularly when Treasury yields are HIGHER than Fannie MBS yields (and Fannies have negative duration!!!!!).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bonds; fannie; fanniemae; fed; mortgage; obama; treasuries
The Fed is screwing over pension funds and other MBS investors BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 09/26/2012 1:25:44 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57

Therefore the funds are actually paying the govt to borrow the money, correct?


2 posted on 09/26/2012 1:28:38 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: whitedog57

What does this mean in English please—description is above my paygrade.


3 posted on 09/26/2012 1:29:38 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: whitedog57

For us rubes out here in ‘fly over country’ what is MBS?


4 posted on 09/26/2012 1:32:12 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: fella

Mortgage Backed Securities


5 posted on 09/26/2012 1:33:53 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (ZERO DARK THIRTY (coming soon to an embassy near you))
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To: kaehurowing

Basically it means that the lender is paying the borrower to borrow the money.


6 posted on 09/26/2012 1:35:26 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: whitedog57

The Fed is looking high and low to buy Mortgage Backed Securities. This makes their prices high, and their interest coupons low. It should lower home mortgage rates.

A typical MBS should have a higher interest rate than a Treasury of the same maturity. And, all things being equal, a 30 year bond will usually have a higher coupon than a 10 year, from the same issuer. So, if 30 year MBS are selling with a lower interest rate than even 10-year Treasuries, the Fed is really distorting the home mortgage market. I think the idea is to push up home prices by lowering the carrying cost of mortgages.


7 posted on 09/26/2012 1:36:17 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: whitedog57

Anybody stupid enough to invest in an MBS deserves to lose every cent.


8 posted on 09/26/2012 1:37:45 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: whitedog57

This means the yield you receive on a mortgage-backed bond is yielding LESS than a 10 year US Treasury Bond.

I’ve never seen such a thing.


9 posted on 09/26/2012 1:38:41 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: whitedog57

Every senior citizen, whose interest proceeds from their savings have been stolen by Ben Bernanke’s outrageous fed rates scams, ought to vote for Mitt Romney. He has promised to fire Bernanke, an Obama political hack from the word go.


10 posted on 09/26/2012 1:40:22 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC31Oudc5Bg

A very funny (but VERY true) comedy sketch by Bird and Fortune talking about this type of thing. Mortage talk come in about 2:45 minutes.

“Similar dodgy mortgage debts are bundled together...”

Why would you buy it?

“It has a great name like “High Grade Structured Enhanced Strategy Fund”

It is so VERY true all that they talk about. Not sure if to laugh or cry.


11 posted on 09/26/2012 1:53:30 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Actually, the Fed can’t do much to force banks to lend. While they can play cames with mortgage rates in the secondary market, the new mortgage rates are still set by a spread over LIBOR or the 10 year T.

The first reason for the Fed’s meddling in the RMBS market is to take non-performing paper off the banks’ balance sheets.

This is just another bailout of the TBTF banks.


12 posted on 09/26/2012 2:00:13 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Perdogg

“Therefore the funds are actually paying the govt to borrow the money, correct?”

That’s perhaps one way to state it, but your summation can be understood two different ways: The funds are paying [normal interest] to borrow [the government’s] money; or, the funds are paying the government to borrow THEIR money FROM THEM., from the funds themselves. It’s effectively paying a bank for safely holding your funds. Which is bizarre; but as rates go to zero...we may become accustomed to such weirdness.

Another way to state it is that the funds are paying the gov’t to get their own money back.


13 posted on 09/26/2012 2:03:04 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: NVDave
The first reason for the Fed’s meddling in the RMBS market is to take non-performing paper off the banks’ balance sheets.

This is just another bailout..

I agree with that, too. Once off of the bank's balance sheets and onto the Fed's the valuation of these instruments goes into a black hole. The Fed will just let them run off, and hope the defaults get buried under some other item over time.

14 posted on 09/26/2012 2:14:22 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: txrefugee

But Bush hired him.


15 posted on 09/26/2012 2:25:22 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Anybody stupid enough to invest in an MBS deserves to lose every cent.

Well, that would be every pension fund in America - since they have always come with an implicit (but carefully unstated) guarantee that they will be Federally backed to the same level as Treasury Bonds.

16 posted on 09/26/2012 2:37:25 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: SatinDoll

Book mark this for later.


17 posted on 09/26/2012 2:48:49 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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