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The Myth of Campus Concealed Carry
Flopping Aces | 10-04-12 | CJ

Posted on 10/05/2012 10:19:37 AM PDT by Starman417

The Texas legislature failed to pass a bill during the last term that legalized concealed carry on state college campuses. A Texas State University liberal named Ravi Venkataraman recently wrote an op-ed in the The University Star opposing any legislation that would allow students to legally defend themselves on campus.

"Concealed carry should be banned from university campuses because it is not an effective shield against mass shooting-type occurrences," said Venkataraman in the opening statement of his gun control diatribe.

No weapon will ever be "an effective shield against mass shooting-type occurrences." That's not what concealed carry (or open carry) is designed to do. While states with concealed carry laws in effect do enjoy lower crime rates, they are meant to provide an immediate response to a potential crime or a crime in progress.

The author mentions several incidents of on-campus shootings. In the Virginia Tech shooting, 32 people were killed by Seung-Hui Cho on a "gun-free" campus. Cho should have been barred from buying any guns because he had been deemed "mentally defective." However, the state never reported this information to the federal government to be reported in the National National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), the system used to determine if citizens are legally allowed to purchase and carry a firearm.

The Virginia Tech shooting also happened on a campus that prohibited the possession of firearms by teachers, faculty, students and visitors other than law enforcement personnel. Because the university took TWO HOURS to even inform the students. The shootings took place over just nine minutes, but it took the police - the only armed presence on campus - six minutes to even respond. There's a saying that "when seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

The author then mentions the Columbine massacre in Colorado as yet another example of why allowing guns on a college campus is a bad idea. There are several obvious reasons why this is an ignorant example. For one, there isn't anyone in the country that would agree that arming students is high school is a good idea. Second, shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold purchased their guns illegally from friends. They also scoured the internet for information on how to build the bombs they planted all over the place. Regardless, Columbine was another "gun free" zone, so according to people like Venkataraman, this shooting never would have happened in such a place. Since high school campuses ban guns in the hands of teachers and faculty, not a single person was in the building that could have stopped the two.

The next example used in the University Star article was the recent Aurora, Colorado, theater shooting. Shooter James Eagan Holmes opened fire into a crowded theater on the opening night of The Dark Knight Returns. Armed with several weapons, Holmes killed or injured more than 70 people before police arrived. The theater had a posted ban on weapons, concealed or otherwise. It was another "gun-free" zone that Venkataraman wants for the TSU campus. It took the police more than three minutes to respond and by that time the dead and injured were already littering the theater floor.

The author mentions in his gun control propaganda piece that the University of Colorado at Boulder allows students to carry concealed weapons as long as they have the required permits. Glaringly omitted from the author's narrative is that there hasn't been a shooting at this university since this law was passed.

How can it be that there are so many shooting on "gun-free" campuses where there should be no weapons and no shootings at campuses that allow students to legally carry concealed? The logic seems off and the author seems ignorant to that.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: firearm; gun; school

1 posted on 10/05/2012 10:19:51 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

The fact remains, almost universally, when a mass shooter encounters return fire, their plan unravels, there are almost no new victims, and they commit suicide.
It’s happened numerous times.
And it’s amazing that this guy gets away with saying a handgun offers no protection from a mass shooter. What a joke.


2 posted on 10/05/2012 10:28:11 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Starman417
>"The logic seems off and the author seems ignorant to that."

Step one is the denial of a creator.

Step two is faith in "nothing".

Matter sprang from nothing. Life then sprang from inert matter.

Believing non reality comes easy after that.

3 posted on 10/05/2012 10:33:12 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Starman417
Ravi Venkataraman is just shooting for grades by parroting back to his teachers what they have been forcing down his throat for years. Here's a documentary that interviews some ex-liberal leaders that have opened their eyes Rebel Evolution. take an hour an get informed.
4 posted on 10/05/2012 10:38:50 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,)
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